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Old 01-22-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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Default Issac Asimov on Hell - "slandered God by inventing Hell"

Excerpt from wikipedia article on Asimov:

The same memoir states his belief that hell is "the drooling dream of a sadist" crudely affixed to an all-merciful God; if even human governments were willing to curtail cruel and unusual punishments, wondered Asimov, why would punishment in the afterlife not be restricted to a limited term? Asimov rejected the idea that a human belief or action could merit infinite punishment. If an afterlife of just deserts existed, he claimed, the longest and most severe punishment would be reserved for those who "slandered God by inventing Hell".


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Old 01-22-2011, 12:53 PM
 
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Interesting, but how can one slander something that doesn't exist? If I say that Mickey's ears are too big, have I slandered Mickey Mouse?
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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"the longest and most severe punishment would be reserved for those who "slandered God by inventing Hell".

Sounds very reasonable to me. Thanks for posting - I did not know he said those things.
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:36 AM
 
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How thought - provoking that your heart sings at the thought that there really is severe and prolonged punishment for those who do not share the beliefs which you (of course) hold. Which are apparently that the prolonged severe punishment is just a fabrication.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:20 AM
 
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It is impossible to slander God. Only people can feel slandered.

Inasmuch as God is part and parcel of us and that we are God, the only slander that can occur is when a person's concept of God (usually an angry old man upstairs) is offended, and then that person claims that God is offended or slandered.

If you take a very old Judaic concept, just our existence is an affront to God. But then IT still loves us very much despite our "stinking like open sepulchers."

I suspect that God enjoys the hell out of our rather hilarious antics, our bizarre thoughts and perceptions, and with our greatly handicapped brains trying to figure out just a tiny fraction of the Infinite.
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Old 01-23-2011, 07:30 AM
 
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I liked that post.
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Old 01-24-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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Issac Asimov on Hell - "slandered God by inventing Hell"

Actually, I believe it is the other way around, humans are quite capable of creating Hell, no gods are necessary.
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Old 01-25-2011, 01:00 PM
 
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Excerpt from wikipedia article on Asimov:

If an afterlife of just deserts existed, he claimed, the longest and most severe punishment would be reserved for those who "slandered God by inventing Hell".


Isaac Asimov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now that would be ironic, God works in mysterious ways

I wonder what they would think of the excuses and threats they LOVE to broadcast to the whole world then, such as "God's ways are not our ways" and "How dare we have the nerve to question God", if they were on the receiving end of it themselves

Only thing is, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy

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Old 01-25-2011, 01:33 PM
 
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How thought - provoking that your heart sings at the thought that there really is severe and prolonged punishment for those who do not share the beliefs which you (of course) hold. Which are apparently that the prolonged severe punishment is just a fabrication.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hel_bibl.htm

There are over 162 references in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) that warn of Hell.

Over 70 of these references are attributed to Jesus.

According to the gospels, Jesus spoke more on Hell than on any other subject. However, many skeptics and religious liberals suggest that the frequency with which Hell appears in individual gospels may reflect the beliefs of their authors or of the authors' faith group more than that of Jesus.
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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Excerpt from wikipedia article on Asimov:

The same memoir states his belief that hell is "the drooling dream of a sadist" crudely affixed to an all-merciful God; if even human governments were willing to curtail cruel and unusual punishments, wondered Asimov, why would punishment in the afterlife not be restricted to a limited term? Asimov rejected the idea that a human belief or action could merit infinite punishment. If an afterlife of just deserts existed, he claimed, the longest and most severe punishment would be reserved for those who "slandered God by inventing Hell".


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The inventor of hell is the inventor of god. No wonder both are filled with revenge and punishments for non compliance.
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