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Old 03-02-2011, 09:34 AM
 
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The purpose is not to mock or make fun of, or even attack, but a serious question that I think needs to be addressed for the good of society, and our future. Does it cut too close to the bone of truth............... well that remains to be seen.

Why can't christians that read from the same book and supposedly all believe in the same god discuss their belief without resorting to antics and attacks that create the need to censor their visceral intolerance of each other? Why are there such disparities between what their leaders say while holding the very same book in their hands?

This creates a situation where the harm created far out weighs anything positive based on all reading from the same book, about the same god.

As an atheist, unencumbered with the fantasies of gods it just hurts my head. I just doesn't make sense, but foremost it is a negative influence that is dividing society into sects.
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: The Milky Way Galaxy
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Because its god's will..

Lol sorry I just gave you the standard christian answer to questions they really have no idea about:P

100% agree with you about it being a negative influence dividing society into sects. All you have to do is hit the history books for factual backing on this.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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The purpose is not to mock or make fun of, or even attack, but a serious question that I think needs to be addressed for the good of society, and our future. Does it cut too close to the bone of truth............... well that remains to be seen.

Why can't christians that read from the same book and supposedly all believe in the same god discuss their belief without resorting to antics and attacks that create the need to censor their visceral intolerance of each other? Why are there such disparities between what their leaders say while holding the very same book in their hands?

This creates a situation where the harm created far out weighs anything positive based on all reading from the same book, about the same god.

As an atheist, unencumbered with the fantasies of gods it just hurts my head. I just doesn't make sense, but foremost it is a negative influence that is dividing society into sects.
It's because there is no clear-cut interpretation of the Bible. It is too disjointed and nonsensacle (sp?) to gain true meaning. It's all in the perception of the reader... some readers see it "this" way and others see it "that" way. I often wondered the same thing when I was a kid. How come my Baptist church hated the Methodists so much? Didn't we all call ourselves Christian? Didn't we all read the same Bible. Well, apparently it isn't so simple.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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The purpose is not to mock or make fun of, or even attack, but a serious question that I think needs to be addressed for the good of society, and our future. Does it cut too close to the bone of truth............... well that remains to be seen.

Why can't christians that read from the same book and supposedly all believe in the same god discuss their belief without resorting to antics and attacks that create the need to censor their visceral intolerance of each other? Why are there such disparities between what their leaders say while holding the very same book in their hands?

This creates a situation where the harm created far out weighs anything positive based on all reading from the same book, about the same god.

As an atheist, unencumbered with the fantasies of gods it just hurts my head. I just doesn't make sense, but foremost it is a negative influence that is dividing society into sects.
Thankfully, the writers of that book made is so vauge and contradictory that christians have no choice but to fight over it....
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Old 03-02-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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Because its god's will..

Lol sorry I just gave you the standard christian answer to questions they really have no idea about:P

100% agree with you about it being a negative influence dividing society into sects. All you have to do is hit the history books for factual backing on this.
Touché - I should have seen that coming.........
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:24 AM
 
Location: New York City
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This might be a tad bit off topic, but I've mentioned it before. [Some] western Christians will point to other Christians in far flung places who are being "persecuted for their faith" as some kind of proof that the world hates them and their message (as per Jesus). That's one hand, but let one of those persecuted Christians express their beliefs and let them be contrary to those of them who are bemoaning their plight.

I also recall a story about the wildly popular Christian minister, T. D Jakes. Every Christian in the black community (and some in the white community) was singing the praises of this new face in Christian television. That's until he sat down for and interview and gave his views about the trinity. Here how popular Christian apologist Dr. Norman Geisler President of Southern Evangelical Seminary summed Jake's view up:

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I know T.D. Jakes is very popular, and I know people don't like his ministry being called a cult, but it is. It would have been condemned by any orthodox church down through the centuries.”…He “ said that Jakes promotes modalism, which denies the doctrine of the Trinity.”
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Perhaps this should be posted in the Christian section. You'll surely get more Christians answering it instead of Atheist and Agnostics.
Just a thought!
(I would surely follow this thread as I too would like to know)
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:56 AM
 
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Perhaps this should be posted in the Christian section. You'll surely get more Christians answering it instead of Atheist and Agnostics.
Just a thought!
(I would surely follow this thread as I too would like to know)
He's an atheist and they will avoid him and his questions like a plague of jock itch.
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:40 AM
 
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Why can't christians that read from the same book and supposedly all believe in the same god discuss their belief without resorting to antics and attacks that create the need to censor their visceral intolerance of each other? Why are there such disparities between what their leaders say while holding the very same book in their hands?
Because faith in a book or a god is a very poor way to get truth. It does do a very good job of making what you wish were true more certain to you. Unfortunately it does the same for everyone else, so you end up with a "is not" "is too" 2nd grade argument mentality because that's the depth of knowledge faith provides. Since there's no way to resolve that rationally, they resort to politics to try and promote their point.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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OP: (tongue in cheek): I also wonder why 1 god has written so many completely different versions for christian, muslims, hindus, etc. So, we have:
- 1 god, many books
- each book with multiple interpretations like you mention (hence the divisions in each religion)
This god guy is not sending a unified message.

Or, more logically, different people are just making up BS and calling it religion.

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