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Originally Posted by Kowulz
I just strongly recommended the book God: The Failed Hypothesis. How Science Shows That God Does Not Exist in another thread. Please let me so so again here. Don't waste your time trying to have an intelligent discussion with braindead xian trolls who only want to proselytize, rather than learn or know the truth. In their feeble little minds they "win" by wasting your time, which every good atheist knows is all we have!
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I win by showing people like you know nothing of the science they claim to be a part of.
Just drones.
First of all,it has been very fun reading the responses to my previous posts.
What you did not seem to understand is I was observing the responses to gain information about those that have a claim of something that I was able to demonstrate they had no knowledge or ability in the subject at all.
Responders had a preconceived notion when they came across certain words and responded to those words.
The word they most wanted to respond to was the word God.
I understand why and where their knowledge comes from about this word.
And I also understand why they have a deep seated desire to refute anything associated to the word God.
So I will name the source of the power in question as Hidden Raw Energy.
Hidden Raw Energy is an appropriate name.
Things like Quarks were named after their discoverer.
And I am not the one that has done all the ground work,I am just the objective observer.
And these observances are based on the observed Laws Of Thermodynamics.
The objects in question are named Fermions and Bosons.
Fermions and Bosons act like other particles and sub atomic particles.
They move and spin which is an example or energy being transformed.
Because of The First Law of Thermodynamics
"The first law of thermodynamics is often called the Law of Conservation of Energy. This law suggests that energy can be transferred from one system to another in many forms. Also, it can not be created or destroyed. Thus, the total amount of energy available in the Universe is constant. Einstein's famous equation (written below) describes the relationship between energy and matter:
E = mc2"
So the question remains.
What system is the energy being transformed from or by?
Onto The Second Law of Thermodynamics
"Heat cannot be transfer from a colder to a hotter body. As a result of this fact of thermodynamics, natural processes that involve energy transfer must have one direction, and all natural processes are irreversible. This law also predicts that the entropy of an isolated system always increases with time. Entropy is the measure of the disorder or randomness of energy and matter in a system."
With heat only being able to travel in one direction it is fair to say it is not heat that is the source of energy holding matter together.
And the energy is not random.
To the contrary energy that is observable emmiting from matter is in the form of precise measurable vibrations.
Next evidence is The Third Law of Thermodynamics
"The third law of thermodynamics states that if all the thermal motion of molecules (kinetic energy) could be removed, a state called absolute zero would occur. Absolute zero results in a temperature of 0 Kelvins or -273.15° Celsius."
This law also shows that the source of energy is not heat.
If the source was heat then matter would disappear at these temperatures.
The next thing to address would be Electromagnetic Energy.
And again there has to be a source first before electromagnetic energy is created.
Matter does not fall apart because it is brought closer or further away from magnetic north for instance.
And electricity is in and of itself a form of energy.
Electricity can transform one energy to another but that still does not answer what is the source of the Hidden Raw Energy.
Energy is described as Potential Energy or Kinetic Energy.
Potential Energy is described as energy that is within matter.
Kinetic Energy is described as energy being transformed.
Matter has a measurable release of energy thru vibration and movement as with Fermions and Bosons which shows Kinetic Energy is occurring.
The matter does not change unless another form of energy is exerted on it.
There is radioactive matter that changes into other forms of matter.
Most eventually stabilize to become a non radioactive element.
Radioactivity destroys and there is differing amounts scattered around the world and there is no evidence that it affects surrounding matter other than in a destructive manner.
Seeing as there is no known source of energy that is exciting the Fermions and Bosons it is best to just give the energy it's most appropriate name.
Hidden Raw Energy
Now onto the arguments of the religious!
""ARGUMENTS AGAINST ATHEISM - “ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE IS NOT EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE"
The Argument | The Refutation
""Following on from the argument that it is impossible to prove the non-existence of God, it is sometimes asserted (both by theists and particularly by agnostics) that the claims of atheism are negated by the idea that “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”, and that asserting the non-existence of something without any hard evidence is just an argument from ignorance.
It is alleged that asserting non-existence in the absence of evidence is the equivalent of an argument like the following: although I have no evidence that my dog can fly, you have no evidence that my dog can not fly; therefore, I am justified in believing that my dog can fly.
The Refutation Back to Top
Although the oft-quoted phrase “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence” seems self-evident at first sight, on closer inspection it is not quite so obvious. Consider, for example, the question of whether there is any butter in my fridge: if we do not actually look in the fridge the absence of evidence clearly does not amount to evidence of absence of butter; if, however, we DO look in the fridge and see that there is no butter in it, then we have the best possible evidence of the absence of butter. We cannot prove that there is no God, but we can safely conclude the He is very, very improbable indeed.
- Richard Dawkins (1991)""
""The important consideration here is that an atheist does not believe with complete certainty that God does not exist given the apparent lack of evidence, only that this is more likely to imply that God does not exist. Although not definitive proof, it is just one more source of evidence to add to all the others. Unfortunately, we are not given any indication by theists of where to look for God, and which fridge to open.""
I am not a theist,but the place to look is Fermions and Bosons.
As I outlined above there is evidence using the Laws Of Thermodynamics that there is Hidden Raw Energy.
"Furthermore, the assertion that God does not exist is qualitatively different from the assertion that my dog can fly. This is because a flying dog is the sort of thing that can be supported with evidence (if a dog could fly, we would expect to find evidence of the dog zooming through the skies, for example), whereas one would actually expect a non-existent thing to produce no evidence whatsoever. Thus, in the case of non-existence, the absence of evidence is exactly what we would expect to observe."
These arguments are so cute.
Because there is evidence to support my claims of Hidden Raw Energy.
And the evidence is supplied by The Laws Of Thermodynamics and observation of Fermion and Boson evidence.
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