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Old 04-07-2011, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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I think music for deaf people is even better.

What kind of music would you like, if you could hear and weren't deaf?
I don't understand. I can hear and I'm not deaf. Although, I have a friend and an uncle who are both deaf, but can hear music when it's turned up really loud- like concert or club level. My friend prefers "black" music... rap, hip-hop, R&B.

And this relates to religious preference for an Atheist how?
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:01 PM
 
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While I agree to a point that most religions require the use of some form of imagination or blind faith. I don't think it makes the religions ways or practices any less meaningful. For example...

Christians - The majority of the Christian community practice a community oriented activity. Either giving back to their own community or bringing food and clothing to another country. Most also believe that the body is sacred and should not be poisoned and live a healthy lifestyle. Is this wrong?

Tell me, how many atheistic organizations do you know of that bring food, clothing or even help build a well in other less developed countries?

Most religions believe that you are your fellow mans keeper. Meaning that their well-being is of your concern. Is this wrong?

If you put aside what you might call the imaginary part of the religion, most of their practices are quite amazing.
False premise.

Most wars were perpetuated by christians as well. Should we blame them for wars? (which I do not btw, human nature trumps religion every time).

If you wish to assign the majority of social altruisms to religion are you also willing to accept all of the negative connotations? If not its cherry picking at best and hypocrisy at worst.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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Religion just gives mankind a great excuse to make war. No other is so good as 'God is on our side'. Supernatural justifications are the best.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:20 PM
 
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Let's try again. I was wondering out of all of you atheists, are there any of you on here that think any religious philosophy is more correct on some of it's teaching than the others. If you are totally against religion and have only negative things to say, please don't post. This is for the atheists who are religious, but don't believe in a deity.

Atheism - the disbelief in a deity or God(s)
That's like asking a vegan what their favorite cut of meat is, or an avowed heterosexual what preferred homosexual act is, or more likely it's just re-baiting the hook while trolling.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Washingtonville
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Would you agree that there is no "right" belief system? That neither, theist or atheist is 100% right? After all, who really knows? We all think we know, but lets be honest... there is no way to know for sure. So, in the end we are all wrong on some level. HAHA
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:38 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Your opinion: which one has it "right"


UHHHHHH, I suspect that would be (D) None of the above
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:16 AM
 
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Would you agree that there is no "right" belief system? That neither, theist or atheist is 100% right? After all, who really knows? We all think we know, but lets be honest... there is no way to know for sure. So, in the end we are all wrong on some level. HAHA
So we can't know that any particular belief is 100% absolutely correct. That doesn't mean that all beliefs are equal. We can still know that an incorrect belief is wrong on it's own (lack of) merits.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Would you agree that there is no "right" belief system? That neither, theist or atheist is 100% right? After all, who really knows? We all think we know, but lets be honest... there is no way to know for sure. So, in the end we are all wrong on some level. HAHA
No, I would not agree that there is no "right" belief system.

There are dozens, if not hundreds or even thousands, of religions, most of which are premised on the existence of one or more deities.

Of the religions that are not premised on the existence of deities, most are premised on the existence of unseen and unobservable spiritual entities, souls, energy forces, reincarnation, or related concepts.

There are one or more belief systems that either assert that it is impossible to state with any confidence whether any deities exist, or that more simply assert that no deity or deities exist.

A maximum of one of these belief systems is "right" in the sense that it accords with reality.

Which one that is may never be proven conclusively, but that doesn't mean there isn't one that is right.

By contrast, you have claimed in this or another thread that any belief system that cannot be definitively disproved is not false. Or, in other words, any belief system that cannot be definitively disproved is true.

You see where the problem is?
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:28 AM
 
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Which book about Cinderella has it right? In some versions she has two evil stepsisters, in others three. Now if it WAS a real story, which would be right? Because one has to be more right!
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Old 04-08-2011, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Which book about Cinderella has it right? In some versions she has two evil stepsisters, in others three. Now if it WAS a real story, which would be right? Because one has to be more right!
Good point.

An interesting sidelight is that all the characters in the Grimm fairy tales that are stepmothers, stepsisters, etc., are actually real mothers and sisters in the original, but the brothers bowdlerized them because they thought the stories would be too horrifying to people if the evil things being done were presented as being done by the characters' real biological mothers.
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