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Old 04-15-2011, 07:41 PM
 
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Do you know all Christians? Your statement certainly doesn't describe me. I'm human, and I completely understand why an atheist chooses not to believe.
Who wants to be the first to call BS on this statement?

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But quite frankly, I couldn't imagine being atheist myself. The thought alone terrifies me, to be honest.
Which negates your previous statement, hence the BS call.

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When have either "proved" themselves to anyone who wasn't 4 years old?
That would seem to be the same time frame of proof of belief as for your god.
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:29 PM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Agnosticism is the only path for the rational.

Most atheists claim to be persons of logic and science. Yet many of them deny the possibility of a deity with the same zeal as an evangelist proclaims it's existence. Being sure something doesn't exist - wow. A theological "all in".

That's
what I call faith.
Well, that's a common mis-conception Bubba!!! It is not the case that most Atheist "deny the possibility of a diety" You're missing the point. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to assume that this diety actually exists. it isn't a denial but a disbelief. There is NO proof of any of the myriad of dieties that have been conjectured over centuries. Christianity ain't that special or that new and novel, it produces the same lame quasi-diety without an iota of evidence that it actually exists. It pretends to be "the new and improved diety in a box" but cries foul when someone points out that the christian god is only slightly less believable than Donald Duck.
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:49 PM
 
Location: South Africa
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Needing courage to acknowledge that there is no God implies that there is impending harm in being an atheist. In today's progressive world, it seems as if being a Christian promises far more injury--so what courage is it that I'm lacking? Or are you trying to call me weak?
This is not true, atheists are determined in the USA worse than muslims or gays.
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I'd be interested in hearing what realities I've denied and what freedoms my faith is keeping me from. What bad has my belief caused? I'm quite happy and prosperous, if I may say so, and I believe God is responsible for that.
Your prosperity is due to your own efforts and only the church has fooled you into thinking the man in the sky is somehow responsible, for this they charge you 10% of your self acquired wealth as commission for telling you this lie.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:03 AM
 
Location: America
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Which one of my posts will be deleted next?
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:09 AM
 
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Your prosperity is due to your own efforts and only the church has fooled you into thinking the man in the sky is somehow responsible, for this they charge you 10% of your self acquired wealth as commission for telling you this lie.
The church does not charge anyone anything. I give willingly. A lot of people likely attend every Sunday and never drop a dime in the collection plate.

The church I give to puts back a great deal of what they receive into the community. There are a lot of disadvantaged members that are often given assistance when needed.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:25 AM
 
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In the end it matters not, but what a miserable existence of running in fear. They have even organized groups in their quest to escape reality, a.k.a. religion.
This right here is what I'm not comprehending. According to what you're saying, my beliefs should have me afflicted and suffering. Instead, my faith has brought me so much peace that I know comes from God himself. The only thing I'm running from is eternal death that a life of denying God promises.

As far as organized groups go, like many blacks, I was raised in the Baptist church. But today, my faith is about my personal relationship with God, not adhering to the rules of any set denomination.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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Which one of my posts will be deleted next?
The one's where you refuse to follow the rules
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:38 AM
 
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This right here is what I'm not comprehending. According to what you're saying, my beliefs should have me afflicted and suffering. Instead, my faith has brought me so much peace that I know comes from God himself. The only thing I'm running from is eternal death that a life of denying God promises.

As far as organized groups go, like many blacks, I was raised in the Baptist church. But today, my faith is about my personal relationship with God, not adhering to the rules of any set denomination.
Driven by the fear that when you die, that it, finished. Thus this relationship (Stockholm Syndrome come to mind) chasing the fantasy of a reward when you die. That is the fools errand you are on today.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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The church does not charge anyone anything. I give willingly. A lot of people likely attend every Sunday and never drop a dime in the collection plate.

The church I give to puts back a great deal of what they receive into the community. There are a lot of disadvantaged members that are often given assistance when needed.
Many, if not most do. A friend ran a printing business in a small town not far from here. I stopped in one day to visit and have a cup of coffee. He was printing an order for the biggest church in town. It was a number of different forms, each on a different color paper.

He was printing dunning letters for parishioners that were not 'tithing' to the standards of 10%. Like any collection agency, they started out as a "reminder" to some pretty harsh demands, five versions in all.
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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Which one of my posts will be deleted next?
My suspicion is that you would get deleted because you are a troll! I rarely, maybe once or twice a year go into the jeezus thing group, I am not a christian, there is no legitimate reason for me to be there, I also do not believe in trying to convert anyone to my perception of truth, the christians we meet in this particular forum are particularly ill-mannered and normally ill-informed.
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