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Old 07-13-2011, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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It's not only fundamentalist Christians, it's environmentalist, vegetarians, pagans, pantheist, animist, collectivist, atheist and other "religious" groups who refuse to acknowledge that they are a religion with a belief system and an agenda that they would like to see the whole world embrace. And everyone of them is prepared to use force via the government to push their agenda through as "necessary".
And how have atheists tried to force their "agenda" via the government? Was there some push to put, "In God we delude ourselves," on our currency?
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:38 PM
 
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It's not only fundamentalist Christians, it's environmentalist, vegetarians, pagans, pantheist, animist, collectivist, atheist and other "religious" groups who refuse to acknowledge that they are a religion with a belief system and an agenda that they would like to see the whole world embrace. And everyone of them is prepared to use force via the government to push their agenda through as "necessary".
Half of those groups are not a religion and atheism is absolutely, definitively not a religion.

Good grief people, if you are going to post can you at least post with some intelligence and honesty and get your facts right.
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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'The road ahead won't be easy but if you take the passenger seat and let God do all the driving you are headed in the right direction' ....this was posted on FB by one of my religious 'friends' ...I had to remove it of course ...I wouldn't say it's a delusion, more of 'not taking responsibility for your own actions' and when things go wrong, you can blame the driver, it must be his will and part of his plan..how clever !! Don't people realize how childish and sheeplike that sounds??
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Old 07-14-2011, 10:22 AM
 
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'The road ahead won't be easy but if you take the passenger seat and let God do all the driving you are headed in the right direction' ....this was posted on FB by one of my religious 'friends' ...I had to remove it of course ...I wouldn't say it's a delusion, more of 'not taking responsibility for your own actions' and when things go wrong, you can blame the driver, it must be his will and part of his plan..how clever !! Don't people realize how childish and sheeplike that sounds??
you don't call it a delusion? well i will....when there is no freakin driver in the driver seat and you're sitting in the passenger seat going 90 MPH!

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Old 07-14-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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well Ok it's a delusion...
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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Half of those groups are not a religion and atheism is absolutely, definitively not a religion.

Good grief people, if you are going to post can you at least post with some intelligence and honesty and get your facts right.
re·li·gion (r-ljn)
n.
1.
a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

They are religions. See #4.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:19 PM
 
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re·li·gion (r-ljn)
n.
1.
a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

They are religions. See #4.
And how does atheism fit into that little explanation?

Atheists do not believe in any gods, they do not have a spiritual leader and don't follow their godless beliefs with 'devotion'.

You are wrong whether you choose to admit it or not. If you have no clue what an atheist is then maybe you shouldn't be posting in this forum unless it is to genuinely be seeking some answers.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:42 PM
 
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And how does atheism fit into that little explanation?

Atheists do not believe in any gods, they do not have a spiritual leader and don't follow their godless beliefs with 'devotion'.

You are wrong whether you choose to admit it or not. If you have no clue what an atheist is then maybe you shouldn't be posting in this forum unless it is to genuinely be seeking some answers.
I am an Atheist.
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Old 07-14-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Metromess
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Well then, you had better find out what it means.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:10 PM
 
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According to Atheist Dave;

  • If atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair color.
  • If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.
  • If atheism is a religion, then “off” is a TV channel.
  • If atheism is a religion, then health is a disease.
  • If atheism is a religion, then unemployment is a job.
  • If atheism is a religion, then “nowhere” is a place.
  • If atheism is a religion, then silence is a volume.
  • If atheism is a religion, then not playing tennis is a sport.
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