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Old 06-19-2011, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If occurance such as a visually severly injured person or a tree uprooted by a storm was immediately restored preceded by a declaration from some entity stating that it is god and that it would be done and the event was witnessed by several disinterested bystanders that also recorded it on their video cameras, I would have to say I would be convinced and change my mind.

In other words, a pre-declared,absolutely opposed to any accepted possiblity, verifiable miracle
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:57 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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Physical manifestation while I am sober and in front of two equally sober witnesses. Just using his alleged rules of engagement wrt witnesses.

That said, it may make me a believer but It would still get the finger and a scolding for Its lack of assistance to those really in need.

In a nutshell, none of this will happen as god is a man made invention.

If perhaps I meet this Moderator cut: edit in an afterlife, I will not want to share any significant time with IT except to tell IT what an Moderator cut: deleted IT is. IT can then smite me to oblivion. I do not want any afterlife, oblivion is far more attractive in that I will not know of my non existence much like it was before I was born.

GLORY!

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Old 06-19-2011, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Earth. For now.
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Zekester said it. Why single out a "God" as the focus of the question? Why not ask the same question about unicorns? Or Leprechauns? The answer is the same, isn't it?

The mere fact that ideas about God(s) have changed so drastically over human history is itself proof that it's all in the human mind.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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The mere fact that ideas about God(s) have changed so drastically over human history is itself proof that it's all in the human mind.
Precisely!
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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If God picked you up, shook you, and set you back down again, I'm sure you would be convinced. I think there are a lot of people who think that way. I can understand, to a large degree.
If you've spent any time at all listening to what atheists think you know that this is wrong.

I don't know of a single atheist who thinks that personal testimonials are reliable. They are too subject to being mistaken or misinterpreted, or the product of some internal stimuli. If we don't believe it when we hear someone else say "I believe because god spoke to me," or some such, why should we believe that some personal experience we think we are having would be any different?

Anecdote is not the singular of data.
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Old 06-19-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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I need physical evidence and a demostration of its powers.

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Old 06-19-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I would need to use the same test as seen in the movie Bruce Almighty. If I could have the same powers as God, I would change my mind. Unlike the movie, I would do a better job than God. A lot less killing/murder for starters (no mass drownings etc).
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I don't understand your tone in the second paragraph. You act as if every Atheist here is going to childishly laugh you off or requires a figurehead telling them to act maturely.
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Certainly not EVERY Atheist, but there are some who would.


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You'll find most of us are educated, mature, have degrees, professionals, actively contribute to society, - and are perfectly capable of answering a post without "you Atheist be good or I'll report you!!!"

Regarding the topic, religion is faith based, we Atheist don't operate on that wavelength. And if you think about it - neither do you (assuming you're a Theist). If you're a Christian, do you hold Odin in the same regard as the Christian God? Does it matter to you that thousands and thousands of people died 100% believing they were on their way to see him? And what about Jihadists - people who die 100% believing they were going to see their God and experience their version of heaven?

What proof is required to change your mind that Odin exists?

Does that sound absurd to you? That's how absurd your question sounds to us (well me..)..
Of this I have no doubt. I just wanted evryone to give a serious answer thats all. Youll find that the thread I posted in the Chritianity forum identical to this one says the same thing.
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Zekester said it. Why single out a "God" as the focus of the question? Why not ask the same question about unicorns? Or Leprechauns? The answer is the same, isn't it?

The mere fact that ideas about God(s) have changed so drastically over human history is itself proof that it's all in the human mind.
But wouldnt this speak more towards the error of HUMAN thinking rather than that of the possibility of God?
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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The mere fact that ideas about God(s) have changed so drastically over human history is itself proof that it's all in the human mind.
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But wouldnt this speak more towards the error of HUMAN thinking rather than that of the possibility of God?
No, but an indicator that as man's knowledge increases, the fantisies linked to superstition wane. Hopefully within a few generations knowledge will eliminate the need of superstitions for all but the most stubborn willful ignorance practitioners.
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