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Old 07-21-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Old 07-22-2011, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What made you want to become a non-believer?
It was never a question of want, I've never been anything else than an atheist, I didn't change into it from something else, it's what I've always been.
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Old 07-23-2011, 02:51 AM
 
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Maybe you should become a Muslim and go for those 72 virgins
Better be an atheist and go for the lot, here and now.
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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most of us wish there was some form of heaven, infinite life, where we could re-unite with family and friends, etc.
I think you are correct that most people wish for what you said. That is why religions were invented.

However, some of us do not have that wish. I am very willing to enjoy my wonderful life and cherish my loving family every day, and the fact that it will someday be gone does not bother me.

I often look at pictures of my great-grandparents and think how amazed they would have been to see our beautiful grand-children. I like to think a descendent of mine will someday look at my picture and be thankful I was alive and was a good parent. That's good enough for me.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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I understand that, I recently read a study regarding the "God Gene", it compares a childs innate attraction to its mother to our search for a "God" as an extension of that biological trait.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:34 PM
 
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I think you are correct that most people wish for what you said. That is why religions were invented.
I think you are over simplifying things. Religion goes back at least ten-thousand years and even Chimpanzees and Elephants have some behaviors that seem proto-religious. Religions probably were not invented, but rather evolved as part of our behavior. Children as young as two years old are dualists (that is they believe the mind and the body are separate things, which is of course not the case). So it's very likely that we are born with the prerequisite beliefs that become religion. Dualism is required for an afterlife and any sort of afterlife is inherently religious. Why religion is beneficial is still beyond me, but I'm sure someone will think of something eventually.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:51 PM
 
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I think you are over simplifying things. Religion goes back at least ten-thousand years and even Chimpanzees and Elephants have some behaviors that seem proto-religious. Religions probably were not invented, but rather evolved as part of our behavior. Children as young as two years old are dualists (that is they believe the mind and the body are separate things, which is of course not the case). So it's very likely that we are born with the prerequisite beliefs that become religion. Dualism is required for an afterlife and any sort of afterlife is inherently religious. Why religion is beneficial is still beyond me, but I'm sure someone will think of something eventually.
Invented or evolved isn't the issue, but what was the impetus? Fear, fear of everything man did not yet understand, which was about everything.

Why did the sun come up and travel across the sky? What if it doesn't come back tomorrow {{{{fear}}}}} Something must control it, so lets praise 'it' so it will bring the sun back tomorrow. Thus the concept of an imaginary thing, and rituals to appease this thing was either invented, or evolved.
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Old 07-23-2011, 11:25 PM
 
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I don't like the label atheist, but I will answer as I don't believe in God (in fact, I'm what most would refer to as a Gnostic Atheist as I know that God by his many definitions in religion is not real; you can always make up some definition that I'm not sure isn't real or that I am sure is real but disagree with the definition like God is love, but that is besides the point). I was raised Christian despite my parents both never even considering the question. My friends were Christians and I went to church with them. When I was nine, I didn't like going to church anymore and didn't. By the time I was eleven I figured that religion was all nonsense. I didn't think much about it until I got into philosophy and that solidified my view that religion holds no merits. There was never a real why.
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: FL
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Interesting so why don't you guys want to believe in anything?
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:10 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Interesting so why don't you guys want to believe in anything?
Moderator cut: deleted there is no want involved. Why do you "want" to believe in religion?

To most of the atheists here, it is just fact that the believers have it wrong. End of discussion.

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