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Old 08-06-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Is this guy really what your country needs? Another George Bush type?

You have my sympathies should he be elected. Rick Perry offers a prayer for Obama at 'The Response' rally - latimes.com
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Rick Perry may have called for this mass assemblage of stark-raving mad lunatics but he is not the only Republican political candidate associated with the New Apostolic Reformation. Sarah Palin has dabbled with the NAR for over 20 years, Newt Gingrich has ties to them, Rick Santorum is affiliated, and surprise, surprise, Michelle "I Married A Gay Man Who Hates Gays" Bachmann is also sucking the teat of this Jesus-crazed, apocalyptic group of hypocrites and windbags.

When Obama took office, people screamed and cried that we were heading down the path of socialism, that we were headed for Soviet-era Stalinism, and that we would all be dragged away from home to work in the communal farms. There was this baseless panic that asking the rich to pay more taxes somehow became the equivalent of the oppression of an entire country where we shot dissenters in the back of the head and billed the family for the bullet.

But, with the NAR pulling the puppet strings of some of the most popular Republican candidates, it should be of utmost important that we find out what they stand for. Indeed, even many Christian groups find the NAR's purpose despicable, un-Biblical, and downright scary. The reality is that the NAR's purpose is not to spread their own Biblical interpretation (scary enough as that is) but to infiltrate it at every level of government. Even further, though, their "Seven Mountains Campaign" must apparently come under the "dominion" of their specific brand of illogical psychosis. The "Seven Mountains" they intend to conquer are:

1. Arts and Entertainment

2. Business

3. Education

4. Family

5. Government

6. Media

7. Religion

If one really wanted to make a comparison to Soviet-era Stalinism, shouldn't we look no further than the agenda of organizations like the NAR? Sure, we might not have hanging posters of Rick Perry or Sarah Palin on every building in the capital, but nothing about the NAR's influence seems genuinely concerned with the sanctity of the First Amendment, the freedom of religion, or, for that matter, the separation of Church and State at all. In fact, it seems from research that the NAR would love to have a theocratic state whereby all people were forced to praise Jesus.

We are lucky we still have a semi-operational Republic where no one particular branch of our government can enact specific reform to change things without two other branches of government involved. However, I strongly fear even the attempt for any potential President to try and invoke or push Congress to pass laws that in any way force me to even pay attention to the religious nincompoopery that pervades modern-day society in the year 2011.

We should expose the charlatans of these religious movements and the candidates who are influenced by them as nothing more than insane god-botherers obsessed with injecting Christianity into the U.S. government.
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:26 PM
 
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Hey! great, I'm sure the stock market will rebound Monday, that we will have full employment by the fall............

or

He is as full of **** as the sewage treatment plant in your city.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Well praying certainly hasn't helped end the drought here in Texas. I guess God is, once again, working in mysterious ways.

Once all the hard-core righties find out that Rick Perry once campaigned for Al Gore, it'll be all over for his presidential hopes.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:56 PM
 
Location: san antonio texas
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Is this guy really what your country needs? Another George Bush type?

You have my sympathies should he be elected. Rick Perry offers a prayer for Obama at 'The Response' rally - latimes.com
the only reason i want rick perry, or his hair, to run for president is so that he will stop farking up the texas economy.

he has no chance in hell of winning, but if he runs, texas wins by default

/lifelong republican
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:57 PM
 
Location: san antonio texas
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Rick Perry may have called for this mass assemblage of stark-raving mad lunatics
citationplease.jpg for everything you just posted.

do your work!
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Hamburg, NY
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I use to be a live & let live kind of guy but people like Perry, Palin & Bachmann have turned me into a militant Atheist.
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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citationplease.jpg for everything you just posted.

do your work!
Here ya go...

Perry, Wilder argues, is venturing into new territory for an aspiring presidential candidate by courting pastors who are followers of the New Apostolic Reformation. The NAR apostles, he writes, have "bizarre" beliefs, including "some" who "consider Freemasonry a 'demonic stronghold' tantamount to witchcraft" and one who thinks the Democratic Party "is controlled by Jezebel and three lesser demons." These unusual beliefs, says Wilder, wouldn't be so remarkable except for the NAR's "growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government." NAR adherents want to "not just take 'dominion' over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the 'Seven Mountains' of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they’re intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they’re leading an 'army of God' to commandeer civilian government."

Rick Perry and the New Apostolic Reformation | Religion Dispatches
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Old 08-07-2011, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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citationplease.jpg for everything you just posted.

do your work!
Sarah Palin has dabbled with the NAR for over 20 years, Newt Gingrich has ties to them, Rick Santorum is affiliated, and surprise, surprise, Michelle "I Married A Gay Man Who Hates Gays" Bachmann is also sucking the teat of this Jesus crazed, apocalyptic group of hypocrites and windbags.

Also see above post from Sanspeur regarding the rest of the required citations.
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Old 08-07-2011, 03:14 AM
 
Location: san antonio texas
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crappy blogs that no one takes seriously... are you really citing that?

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Sarah Palin has dabbled with the NAR for over 20 years, Newt Gingrich has ties to them, Rick Santorum is affiliated, and surprise, surprise, Michelle "I Married A Gay Man Who Hates Gays" Bachmann is also sucking the teat of this Jesus crazed, apocalyptic group of hypocrites and windbags.

Also see above post from Sanspeur regarding the rest of the required citations.
first link - claims a video shows sarah palin being 'annointed' by these NAR people, yet no video is present in the link. sorry, i just cant take a crappy blog at its word without any proof.

second link - highly militant but poorly understood charismatic wing of the new Christian right, a movement which includes both Ted Haggard and Sarah Palin.

bwhahahahahaahahh! what kind of propaganda, left wing crap am i reading here? do you really take nuttjobs who write retarded crap like this seriously?

when was the last time you seriously heard christians calling each other to arms and become 'militant'? seriously.. ROFL! this crap is about as bad as 'news of the weird' and just as credible!

third link - First up, we have Rick Perry’s pastor who has said that Oprah is ushering in the antichrist.

i didnt even bother reading past the first farking sentence. of course, perry's pastor isnt telling him to spout out stupid crap, like barry's former pastor did.

Sen. Barack Obama's pastor (The Rev. Jeremiah Wright) says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."

so, when you have a president who hangs around racists and thugs, you get reactions like this.

fourth link - not sure how a bunch of 'prayer warriors' are going to take over america, but if you seriously believe that load of propaganda BS, i have a bridge you might be interested in procuring...



if you want to have a meaningful discussion, dont post links to propaganda websites and use those as the basis of your argument. it will get shot down pretty darn fast.


/would have accepted anything from any of the fav left sides (cnn,msnbc,abc, etc etc)
//seeing as none of them bothered to link to anything either of you posted, i can safely assume theyre just BS
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