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Old 09-22-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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Like many atheist, I grew up in a "Christian home" albeit one of those left wing ones and I still haven't thrown the teachings of Jesus out with the bath water, meanings that while I thoroughly reject the divinity of Christ or the existence of a god, I still hold dear the principles of love, forgiveness and charity expressed in the New Testament... more so it seems than those who proclaim their Christianity with bull horns. So, my question is, am I alone in keeping the principles but rejecting the mythology?
You can call love,forgiveness, and charity "teachings of christ" if you want....but those principles as well as compassion, empathy,respect for others,etc are all good.....and can be just as easily held dear and applyed by someone who has never held a religious belief or background.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Just thought i would show you.
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead.
- Revelation 2:20-23 (Supposedly Jesus speaking)

This is not exactly the lovely image of Jesus many Christians care to mention, but I digress and understand what Ovcatto is talking about.
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water......
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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Like many atheist, I grew up in a "Christian home" albeit one of those left wing ones and I still haven't thrown the teachings of Jesus out with the bath water, meanings that while I thoroughly reject the divinity of Christ or the existence of a god, I still hold dear the principles of love, forgiveness and charity expressed in the New Testament... more so it seems than those who proclaim their Christianity with bull horns. So, my question is, am I alone in keeping the principles but rejecting the mythology?
No, you're not alone. I feel exactly the same way.

I believe the Bible is basically a work of literature; especially the Old Testament. It's a book written over the span of 1500 years by dozens of authors. Ancient peoples who were trying their best to convey to us their God Experience, through the use of metaphor and allegory and symbolism.
I think a man called Jesus most likely existed about 2000 years ago, but he was just that: a man. A fine teacher, like Siddartha Gautama or Lao Tsu or Ghandi or Mohammed. (Even Jesus' followers called him "rabbi" which means "teacher.")
But the thing is, Jesus was completely, fully, perfectly tapped into "God." Moreso than any man before or since. Thus, I guess I could agree with his "Christ" title, so long as we remember that name comes from the Greek word "kristos" which means "annointed one." I would agree that he was annointed only if we could agree that that word means he was fully aware of and tuned into God's presence.
I also believe Jesus was born of a mortal man and woman, and most likely had siblings. I think the whole virgin birth thing was only another instance of metaphor being used to convey a sense of divinity and superiority to normal men.
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Old 09-25-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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I would agree that he was annointed only if we could agree that that word means he was fully aware of and tuned into God's presence.
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