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Old 02-01-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Funny though because most atheists expect this 100% proof for the existance of God.
No we don't. We'll start with some evidence, any at all.
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Old 02-01-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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NO

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I think the " Hate " that is at work in Christianity today proves that there is no "loving God" at work therein. The equation just does not add up, and serves as proof (as close as there can be) that the Christianity and it's god is justa mere illusion
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:22 PM
 
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What I say to my West African Christian co-workers, who, when I tell them I'm atheist, is to answer their "trump you!" question, "Where do you think all of this came from?" I say, "I have no idea, but your god answer doesn't make any sense at all."
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:25 AM
 
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I don't believe in this judgement you are refering to. That is not the God I believe in. So that is the misconception. That everyone has that view.
I didn't say that everyone agreed on what god was (obviously, since there are so many people claiming different things about the absolute truth of gods). I'm curious how you can be so sure that the god I mentioned isn't the correct one.
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Old 02-02-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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Funny though because most atheists expect this 100% proof for the existance of God.
Even funnier that theist apologists start off by grotesquely misrepresenting atheism and what they 'expect' in order to discredit them. As said above, any sound evidence will count but there hasn't been anything worth a damn' in all the years I've been debating.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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What I say to my West African Christian co-workers, who, when I tell them I'm atheist, is to answer their "trump you!" question, "Where do you think all of this came from?" I say, "I have no idea, but your god answer doesn't make any sense at all."
(Never discuss politics, religion or sex at work. Remember...)
It's amazing how often this is produced as the 'trump' question. It is of course totally false as not knowing where it all came from does not mean that goddunnit has to be the only possibility. And even if a god - dunnit, we still need to Leap of Faith to get from first cause to a specific god (name your own).
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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Funny though because most atheists expect this 100% proof for the existance of God.
None that I have met. Ever. Not sure who you have been talking to or imagining talking to.

No what people, like me for example, are asking for is not 100% proof at all. Any evidence, argument, data or reasons to even begin to lend credibility to the proposition would be nice.

Even that very much appears not to be forthcoming any time soon and we have been asking for quite some time.
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Old 02-02-2012, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Funny though because most atheists expect this 100% proof for the existance of God.
“I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers. I'll believe anything, no matter how wild and ridiculous, if there is evidence for it. The wilder and more ridiculous something is, however, the firmer and more solid the evidence will have to be. ”
― Isaac Asimov

And I agree with Isaac.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:12 PM
 
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And how much proof is there? 0% vs. 100% pretty much makes it black and white without any shades of gray. Show "some" proof and we'll talk.
100% proof of what? Our existence? How we and the universe came from nothing has not one bit of proof, science or not. Evidence and proof are not the same thing. There is a lot of evidence for God's existence starting with our own and the complexity of life and the structure of the universe. Science cannot explain the reasons only the observations.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:15 PM
 
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No we don't. We'll start with some evidence, any at all.
Evidence is subjective. Intelligent design is considered evidence for some.
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