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Old 01-13-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Atheism is a religious cult in the same sense that capitalism is a capital letter.

Interesting how the religious tend to see the nonreligious in religious terms.
This is the observation of an agnostic. Sorry!
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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This is the observation of an agnostic. Sorry!
Are you saying agnostics can't share observations/comment on atheism in this thread? Are you not an agnostic yourself making an observation/comment on atheism? Why are your comments/observations more relevant than the rest of us agnostics?

If are really saying that agnostic can't make comments/observations/defenses about atheism. Then who is the one with the limited scope? This thread will not bear much fruit if you decide to ignore/dismiss fellow agnostic’s comments.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Is Atheism a religious cult?
Just like not collecting stamps is a hobby.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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This is the observation of an agnostic. Sorry!

Save your labels for the pickle jars.

You simply have no clue.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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Save your labels for the pickle jars.

You simply have no clue.


Great debate tactic. Be brief in a jocular manner. Works almost every time.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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Are you saying agnostics can't share observations/comment on atheism in this thread? Are you not an agnostic yourself making an observation/comment on atheism? Why are your comments/observations more relevant than the rest of us agnostics?

If are really saying that agnostic can't make comments/observations/defenses about atheism. Then who is the one with the limited scope? This thread will not bear much fruit if you decide to ignore/dismiss fellow agnostic’s comments.
I don't get your post.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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I don't get your post.
Read to quickly and made a mistook one of your posts. It happens sometimes. I publicly apologize to you for that post.
Baystater
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Great debate tactic. Be brief in a jocular manner. Works almost every time.

It's not a tactic, it's an observation.
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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I saw the spectrum. If you are a 6 then you are technically an agnostic and not a strong atheist which is a 7. I have no issues with being a 6. I am in that category as well.

However, I have no issue with leaving a tiny window open for theism because it allows me to complete my humanity. I can fully enjoy the Ave Maria of Bach or Schubert by being a 6, but perhaps I would reject the music if I was a 7.
Oh contraire, mon ami! I deeply enjoy classical music, and I openly (and often!) tell people that Christianity is The First Cause for the composition of most all of the finest music man has ever produced. (forgetting good cajun zydeco for the moment of course...). That's the direct result, of course, of inspiration. Not that this ever requires an actual God hovering in the room, so to speak, just the composer's deeply felt conviction of that God residing in his music studio.

I also dearly hope to visit some of the finer examples of church architecture in Europe some day, if Europe still survives. Like in Florence for instance.

It is too bad they were built on the backs of the village people, not only physically but also monetarily. This is also apparent in many of the small villages in Quebec province, where you can see the monumental RC church spire from many miles away, and the bronze historic plaque out front tells you that this church took them 2-50 years to complete.

As in: tithe, my friends, like there's no tomorrow!
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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Oh contraire, mon ami! I deeply enjoy classical music, and I openly (and often!) tell people that Christianity is The First Cause for the composition of most all of the finest music man has ever produced. (forgetting good cajun zydeco for the moment of course...). That's the direct result, of course, of inspiration. Not that this ever requires an actual God hovering in the room, so to speak, just the composer's deeply felt conviction of that God residing in his music studio.

I also dearly hope to visit some of the finer examples of church architecture in Europe some day, if Europe still survives. Like in Florence for instance.

It is too bad they were built on the backs of the village people, not only physically but also monetarily. This is also apparent in many of the small villages in Quebec province, where you can see the monumental RC church spire from many miles away, and the bronze historic plaque out front tells you that this church took them 2-50 years to complete.

As in: tithe, my friends, like there's no tomorrow!
I have seen all those European cathedrals including Notre Dame. I was in awe in front of the tomb of Galileo in Florence. I had a mystical experience in Westminster Abbey when I saw the tomb of Isaac Newton. That 0.1% of agnosticism allowed me to have a more satisfying religious experience, ha, ha.

When I hear the Bach Gounoud Ave Maria in a wedding that Catholic upbringing makes the experience much more rewarding.
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