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So if you don't know what you believe, then why do you deride others for what they believe?
That makes you a coward and a hypocrite, does it not?
A) You were the one who started a thread to do nothing but deride atheists for their perceived lack of logical consistency. You can't do that without expecting others to point out how stupid your arguments are.
B) Not all beliefs are the same. The belief that the sky is blue is one worth respecting. The belief that Gorboth, the Eight Headed Beast Who Controls the Airwaves is watching us sleep at night is not a belief worth respecting.
To me, no real atheist would turn something like this down. They have no consequences. Again, it would be illogical to turn this down.
So, are you a real atheist?
You are assuming that an athiest has no morals and will suffer no consequences from the moral wrong of ending a life.
I consider myself an athiest and I believe murder is wrong. Period. And that its not up to me to end someone's life, even if they want. If they really want to do it, they should do it themselves, but unless someone is threatening my life, I would not do it.
I'd suffer from a personal, moral and mental consequence from that. And that is enough to prevent me from doing it.
You step further into your hypocrisy by answering this:
With this:
And then your veiled proselytizing becomes clear with this.
Thus rendering your thread inappropriate for the Atheists and Agnostics sub-forum.
But if I'm an atheist, I shouldn't have those emotions in the first place.
They should have evolved out of me. Remember, I grew up in an all atheist society where I've learned my entire life that there is no God; therefore, there are no consequences.
I wouldn't have those emotions if the atheist assumption is correct in the sense that we evolve. I see that word pretty consistently on this forum to describe why people became atheists.
So if that's the case, if there is in fact no God to give me those emotions, why would I have them?
Unless of course I'm a punk and a coward, not unlike a man that proclaims to be a hardened gang member in the penitentiary, but the next day you see him with his hair slicked back, red kool-aid on his lips, his shirt tied in a bow, and his finger in another man's pocket.
If I'm an atheist, I have ultimate freedom. It's been indoctornated into my mind at an early age. Why would I grow up with empathy?
This makes little sense to me if you believe that human mind evolves to adapt to its current circumstances.
As a registered atheist, I choose to live by the Golden Rule (and I don't care if it originated in the bible, the koran, or one of the early Dr. Suess books). It's my personal code of conduct (and it is for most atheists I've known).
But if I'm an atheist, I shouldn't have those emotions in the first place.
They should have evolved out of me. Remember, I grew up in an all atheist society where I've learned my entire life that there is no God; therefore, there are no consequences.
I wouldn't have those emotions if the atheist assumption is correct in the sense that we evolve. I see that word pretty consistently on this forum to describe why people became atheists.
So if that's the case, if there is in fact no God to give me those emotions, why would I have them?
Unless of course I'm a punk and a coward, not unlike a man that proclaims to be a hardened gang member in the penitentiary, but the next day you see him with his hair slicked back, red kool-aid on his lips, his shirt tied in a bow, and his finger in another man's pocket.
If I'm an atheist, I have ultimate freedom. It's been indoctornated into my mind at an early age. Why would I grow up with empathy?
This makes little sense to me if you believe that human mind evolves to adapt to its current circumstances.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I happen to agree with you that moral absolutes are impossible without a higher power. The problem is, you can't conceive of a possible world in which morality has evolved to sustain the species. It is very possible that a moral code would be established even in a world where religion never existed. It just couldn't be absolute, and would change as the condition of society changed.
But if I'm an atheist, I shouldn't have those emotions in the first place.
What? Atheists are people too, you know. This is disgusting that I have to point this out at all.
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They should have evolved out of me. Remember, I grew up in an all atheist society where I've learned my entire life that there is no God; therefore, there are no consequences.
What? There are countless consequences, as has been pointed out in this thread repeatedly. Read and think better.
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I wouldn't have those emotions if the atheist assumption is correct in the sense that we evolve. I see that word pretty consistently on this forum to describe why people became atheists.
What? Just because we've evolved doesn't mean we don't have emotions. I can't even fathom how you're coming up with this stupidity.
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So if that's the case, if there is in fact no God to give me those emotions, why would I have them?
What? God didn't provide us emotions. They are an innate part of being human. That's why sociopaths are seen as different - their brain chemistty/biological make up is different.
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Unless of course I'm a punk and a coward, not unlike a man that proclaims to be a hardened gang member in the penitentiary, but the next day you see him with his hair slicked back, red kool-aid on his lips, his shirt tied in a bow, and his finger in another man's pocket.
What? That's all I have for this. What?
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If I'm an atheist, I have ultimate freedom. It's been indoctornated into my mind at an early age. Why would I grow up with empathy?
What? Atheists don't have "ultimate freedom." We live in a lawful society. We have parents who teach us right from wrong. We have biological imperatives that lead us to empathy. All of your premises are so laughably off base that I'm certainly convinced that you must be joking. No one could possibly be this terrible at even basic thought.
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This makes little sense to me if you believe that human mind evolves to adapt to its current circumstances.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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