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Old 05-19-2012, 06:16 AM
 
Location: NW NJ & SE Oahu
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It's those weirdo extremists who get the attention of the Press, because it creates a pseudo "controversy" - which always sells headlines.
That video is amazing, that guy's a whole new dimension of stupid.

These "people" are now calling mathematicians liars!
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:50 AM
 
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Being from Scandinavia - Norway, Sweden and Denmark are among the most secular western nations in the world. We have large number of Atheists/Agnostics with religious people being the minority. However, our holidays and culture are still Christian. Most of our national holidays are religious Christian with few secular ones'.

Despite us having very large nonbelievers population, we are never against the religious people. Sweden also has separation of church and state.

Our public schools still teaches religion, and on some high holidays many schools take students to churches. On St. Lucia's Day, students sing also about Jesus Christ. Many schools also teaches bible lessons after class if students are interested.

From what I've seen and read, it seems like Atheists in the U.S. are very Anti-religion. They try to take away all religious things in America, despite the U.S. having 80% Christians and only 1.6% Atheists/Agnostics. Yes, around 16% are Non-religious but that does not mean they don't believe in God, they are just not members of any religious places. So America could be considered a religious nation.

Why not leave religious people alone and let them keep or make religion in the U.S. as much as possible.... ignore and laugh at them (My tips).
Yes, I understand it could be annoying when religious people get mad and angry at nonbelievers, but if you guys ignore them then they wouldn't say anything hopefully. In Scandinavia I never heard any fight between religious and non-religious people at all, maybe because us non-believers don't care what they do in our country, because we like Christian holidays and culture.
Theres a few reasons why american atheism is so outwardly hostile and even militant :

1. It has a few key Leader/Gurus who fancy the notoriety of making atheism a quest to stomp out any and all semblences of God especially Christianity ; such Leaders have become popular thru published books to spread secularism and hedonism which are two fundamental tenets of atheism pertaining to lifestyle --- they bash the Christian Faith in order to enjoy and try justifying these tenets.

2. It has taken advantage of freedom of speech laws to preach an unrelentless barrage of hate, vitrol, defiance, and apathy for the Cause. And when it feels resistance from the Christian Community , it fuels the resentment they have toward godliness, Godly values, Godly ideologies, and especially absolute moral laws which are needed for civility of a Nation.

3. It has formed dedicated Associations such as The American Atheist Association which hold many regional conferences, a very large national conference annually, in addition to atheist kids camps to groom young people to be hateful and spiteful . The ultimate motive is to eliminate all forms of religion they see as an affront except of course for their own secular religion of (now defunct) Darwinnian Evolution and continuance toward playing the charade of Naturalism and Materialism as a worldview --- without a shred of scientific evidence and based solely on speculation, opinion, and enormous faith in the incredulous. (IE: World reknown Atheist Scientists calculate atheistic first life appearing at 1 in 10^40,000 th probability giving it every possible chance) . Atheism is a religious FAITH.

4. It feels greatly threatened with the upsurgence of proactive Christians and Theists exposing the many fallacies of atheism as a worldview or lifestyle .... and anything which stands in the way of total autonomous living whereby One makes SELF his/her god ..... is something it finds resentful even though they volitionally started the war first .

Theres other reasons, but suffice it to say, these are the major ones why hostile and militant Atheism has gained popularity in recent years . It will continue to escalate and the fury strengthened as it sees it impossible to squelch the Christian Faith (IE: ' Within 3 decades the Bible will be extinct' --- Atheist Voltaire whos own house in France is now the largest BIble distribution center to the world) .

Glad to hear its not as bad in Scandinavia ...but it is full of excitement here in the U.S. lol
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: NW NJ & SE Oahu
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^ Too many bold-faced lies here to have time to respond to, but I certainly don't regret having tossed my personal (childhood) bible in the trash a few years ago.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Tomball
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Atheists in America don't want to take away religious things for religious people. If you want to pray go ahead. If you want to say Creationisn is right fine. What American atheists object to is when someone says "Public school prayer ought to be had, and Creationism ought to be taught through law." That's when atheists go "No!The consitution forbids that." Atheists also don't care about what ridiculous pagan rooted holiday Christians celebrate.What atheists care about is when any of these holidays come around the majority if not all of what we see is how great Christmas, Easter,Jesus is, and then there's the everyday Jesus is great. We don't say, "Let's ban Christmas." What atheists want at minimum is for Christians and other religious people to keep their religion to their individual private lives. Now, some atheists would like it if religion was done away with,me included.Though we are not going to take away rights to religious freedoms to meet our goal.Also,have you ever seen religious Americans?
I agree with Rj7237 and others in the forum. I believe religion is more of an annoyance than a problem that non-religious people believe need to be done away with. However, it does become a larger issue when more extreme Christians use religion as a podium to show a complete disregard for the beliefs of others, then try to pass laws or have the bible taught as science. Personally, I believe that is part of what causes some Atheist to have a more militant stance against religion in general. Also, others in the forum have hit the nail on the head when pointing out that watching the news doesn't help calm any hostilities.
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Tomball
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Theres a few reasons why american atheism is so outwardly hostile and even militant :

1. It has a few key Leader/Gurus who fancy the notoriety of making atheism a quest to stomp out any and all semblences of God especially Christianity ; such Leaders have become popular thru published books to spread secularism and hedonism which are two fundamental tenets of atheism pertaining to lifestyle --- they bash the Christian Faith in order to enjoy and try justifying these tenets.

2. It has taken advantage of freedom of speech laws to preach an unrelentless barrage of hate, vitrol, defiance, and apathy for the Cause. And when it feels resistance from the Christian Community , it fuels the resentment they have toward godliness, Godly values, Godly ideologies, and especially absolute moral laws which are needed for civility of a Nation.

3. It has formed dedicated Associations such as The American Atheist Association which hold many regional conferences, a very large national conference annually, in addition to atheist kids camps to groom young people to be hateful and spiteful . The ultimate motive is to eliminate all forms of religion they see as an affront except of course for their own secular religion of (now defunct) Darwinnian Evolution and continuance toward playing the charade of Naturalism and Materialism as a worldview --- without a shred of scientific evidence and based solely on speculation, opinion, and enormous faith in the incredulous. (IE: World reknown Atheist Scientists calculate atheistic first life appearing at 1 in 10^40,000 th probability giving it every possible chance) . Atheism is a religious FAITH.

4. It feels greatly threatened with the upsurgence of proactive Christians and Theists exposing the many fallacies of atheism as a worldview or lifestyle .... and anything which stands in the way of total autonomous living whereby One makes SELF his/her god ..... is something it finds resentful even though they volitionally started the war first .

Theres other reasons, but suffice it to say, these are the major ones why hostile and militant Atheism has gained popularity in recent years . It will continue to escalate and the fury strengthened as it sees it impossible to squelch the Christian Faith (IE: ' Within 3 decades the Bible will be extinct' --- Atheist Voltaire whos own house in France is now the largest BIble distribution center to the world) .

Glad to hear its not as bad in Scandinavia ...but it is full of excitement here in the U.S. lol
Based on this, there is apparently a movement isolated to America. Care to post some links to sources to backup this point of view?
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Based on this, there is apparently a movement isolated to America. Care to post some links to sources to backup this point of view?
Do you really think someone who calls Darwinian evolution a defunct secular religion can even begin to back up their views?
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Tomball
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Do you really think someone who calls Darwinian evolution a defunct secular religion can even begin to back up their views?
I'm Agnostic, so I could see stranger things happening. I mean, they probably won't, but I never know for sure.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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Have you ever met a fundie xtian? Speak with one and then get back to me.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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Theres a few reasons why american atheism is so outwardly hostile and even militant :
For the simple reason that in no other country does the hate, ignorance and bigotry of the bronze age have hold on such a large percentage of willfully ignorant people.

The push back is solely to push back the mind boggling ignorance of the bronze age that christians push into society and our laws.

A most recent example, Amendment One in NC, which has the sole purpose of lessening the rights of people their ancient ignorance says they (you) must hate. Hatred born in ignorance now part of the state constitution. The same ignorance that made segregation legal only a half-century ago.

If in your simplistic view you choose to see the opposition to willful ignorance as hostility, that is your failing, but expected from those without the will or ability to think you way out of an absurd and sadistic fairy tale you call christianity.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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Default Why are American Atheists so extremist compared to other countries Atheists?

Newton's 3rd Law.
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