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Old 01-21-2012, 02:20 AM
 
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Being from Scandinavia - Norway, Sweden and Denmark are among the most secular western nations in the world. We have large number of Atheists/Agnostics with religious people being the minority. However, our holidays and culture are still Christian. Most of our national holidays are religious Christian with few secular ones'.

Despite us having very large nonbelievers population, we are never against the religious people. Sweden also has separation of church and state.

Our public schools still teaches religion, and on some high holidays many schools take students to churches. On St. Lucia's Day, students sing also about Jesus Christ. Many schools also teaches bible lessons after class if students are interested.

From what I've seen and read, it seems like Atheists in the U.S. are very Anti-religion. They try to take away all religious things in America, despite the U.S. having 80% Christians and only 1.6% Atheists/Agnostics. Yes, around 16% are Non-religious but that does not mean they don't believe in God, they are just not members of any religious places. So America could be considered a religious nation.

Why not leave religious people alone and let them keep or make religion in the U.S. as much as possible.... ignore and laugh at them (My tips).
Yes, I understand it could be annoying when religious people get mad and angry at nonbelievers, but if you guys ignore them then they wouldn't say anything hopefully. In Scandinavia I never heard any fight between religious and non-religious people at all, maybe because us non-believers don't care what they do in our country, because we like Christian holidays and culture.
I don't think the atheists in the US are more 'extreme'.

It's just that so many conservative born-again evangelical creationists are more extreme in comparison to other countries.

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Old 01-21-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Keeping religion out of public schools isn't just for Atheists, rather the actions Atheists have been taking have benefited all people who are not Christian.
Why u want that? I thought USA is a Christian country because it says on the money and they have christian holidays
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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Why u want that? I thought USA is a Christian country because it says on the money and they have christian holidays
You thought wrong.

And please tell where on our money does it say the United States is a Christian country?
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:07 PM
 
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sarcasm is not allowed?
You might want to read the sticky, but don't take it entirely at face value.

Reminds me of Fox news advertizing themselves as "fair and balanced"
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:28 AM
 
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I don't think the atheists in the US are more 'extreme'.

It's just that so many conservative born-again evangelical creationists are more extreme in comparison to other countries.
You are quite right!
Americans are the only people on earth to have had a president who ascended to the Heavens like Jesus did !
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Old 01-22-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Oslo, Norway to Paramus, New Jersey
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Yeah I moved from Norway and it says In God We Trust on the money .... do all believe in God in America?
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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Yeah I moved from Norway and it says In God We Trust on the money .... do all believe in God in America?
No not all americans believe in god as is obvious from the american atheists who post on this forum.

When and why was "In God We Trust" placed on US currency? - Under God in the Pledge - ProCon.org

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"The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War.

Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout persons throughout the country, urging that the United States recognize the Deity on United States coins. From Treasury Department records, it appears that the first such appeal came in a letter dated November 13, 1861. It was written to Secretary Chase by Rev. M. R. Watkinson, Minister of the Gospel from Ridleyville, Pennsylvania.
During the height of the cold war, it was added to the paper currency. The under god in the pledge of allegiance was added in the same time frame. The hysteria about communism during the McCarthy era was responsible for much of this.

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A law passed by the 84th Congress (P.L. 84-140) and approved by the President on July 30, 1956, the President approved a Joint Resolution of the 84th Congress, declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States. IN GOD WE TRUST was first used on paper money in 1957, when it appeared on the one-dollar silver certificate. The first paper currency bearing the motto entered circulation on October 1, 1957
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:07 PM
 
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Yeah I moved from Norway and it says In God We Trust on the money .... do all believe in God in America?
No, which is why those of us who believe in the founding principles of this country are fighting to have it removed.
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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Yeah I moved from Norway and it says In God We Trust on the money .... do all believe in God in America?
And that is a problem, along with the inclusion of god in the pledge of allegiance to our country.

James Madison recognized the problem a long time ago, when he said;
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations."
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:19 PM
 
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On the edge of the Dutch Two Euro coin it says "God zij met ons" which translates to "God is with us." This was also on the guilder.

Bestand:Rijksdaalders met randschrift.jpg - Wikipedia

So it's not weirdly unique to the US to have coins mention God.
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