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why would God give us such a high sex drive if He thought it wrong anyway?
Same reason he makes a large percentage of pregnancies fail and refuses to miraculously heal amputees. Either he doesn't care, enjoys torturing people, or is a figment of believers' imaginations.
Same reason he makes a large percentage of pregnancies fail and refuses to miraculously heal amputees. Either he doesn't care, enjoys torturing people, or is a figment of believers' imaginations.
The Bible also states, unequivocally and without qualification, that ALL prayers will be answered. This is from the mouth of Jesus himself, and is clearly a lie.
The Bible also states, unequivocally and without qualification, that ALL prayers will be answered. This is from the mouth of Jesus himself, and is clearly a lie.
Well now the party line is that sometimes the answer is "no".
Huh. You mean the bible does not contradict itself on this matter as it does on many others? Go figure.
The Bible seems pretty consistent about this matter.
"And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything of me in my name, I will do it." (John 14:13-14)
I have found at least ten verses or group of verses that say exactly the same thing. The Bible is consistent, but consistently wrong about answered prayer. Explanations to try to rationalize are simply not Biblical.
The Bible also states, unequivocally and without qualification, that ALL prayers will be answered. This is from the mouth of Jesus himself, and is clearly a lie.
EDIT: Oops... nevermind. My question was answered in another post.
Yes. The point is that the Bible appears to assure believers that everything they ask for 'in faith' will be granted. This is clearly not the case as the believers know since they use the excuse 'sometimes god says No'. which is the same result we'd get if there wasn't a god there at all which is what studies show and really what we can understand from world history.
The religious have to try to wangle something better with unexplained cures, dreams and mirages and various miracles which do not stand up very well under examination (Notably Fatima fell apart when put under the microscope here) but the fact remains, God does not grant everything asked in faith.
It does not answer to claim that Christians do not ask for anything like a new bike or to find a wad of dollars on the pavement. If they did in Faith - or at least something with a real justification - like a really needed job or a rescue or recovery from illness, that would be a perfectly justified prayer. And we know they do because, if they do happen to get a new job or are rescued or recover from illness this is held up as God answering a prayer. Thus, if that the Bible says is true this should work every time. It plainly does not
I will again present my offer. I have a bottle of water on my desk. If a Christian asks God to turn it into wine and it does, I will become a Christian. That's my offer. I 'know' it will not happen and so do Christians, because nobody has taken up the offer, but the only response is that 'God does not work like that' (we know, he works in a way indistinguishable from not actually existing) or that requests of that kind (practical, checkable and, moreover, not ever going to happen except by a miracle) do not count as proper faithful prayer.
Why not? If this miracle happens a soul is saved. Isn't that worth a percent of the effort put in by believers in trying to unbutton our arguments? Some have said it is not worth doing because I would never convert. I have said that I would and I keep my promises. In the face of such a miracle, would I dare not? At the least I would report that, for some reason i can't explain, the water indeed changed to wine. What a miracle!
No, the only reason the offer is not taken up is because they know the granting of prayers as assured in the Gospels does not happen.
I will again present my offer. I have a bottle of water on my desk. If a Christian asks God to turn it into wine and it does, I will become a Christian. That's my offer. I 'know' it will not happen and so do Christians, because nobody has taken up the offer, but the only response is that 'God does not work like that' (we know, he works in a way indistinguishable from not actually existing) or that requests of that kind (practical, checkable and, moreover, not ever going to happen except by a miracle) do not count as proper faithful prayer.
Why not? If this miracle happens a soul is saved. Isn't that worth a percent of the effort put in by believers in trying to unbutton our arguments? Some have said it is not worth doing because I would never convert. I have said that I would and I keep my promises. In the face of such a miracle, would I dare not? At the least I would report that, for some reason i can't explain, the water indeed changed to wine. What a miracle!
I was going to make it a two-for-one conversion and offer my soul as well, going as far as to place a glass of water on my fridge, but I couldn't do so in good faith.
I realized that even if it were a glass of wine the next time that I looked at it, that would still not be evidence of the Christian god. Maybe it was Bacchus, he also loves his wine. This is just more god-o-the-gaps. The unexplained phenomenon of water turning to wine is no more proof of any god than the unknown origin of life.
Answered prayers are post hoc-coincidental, and theists rationalize about the others. Tests show that prayers don't make for healing.
How could then a square circle answer any anyway and how could one have a relationship with it- that imaginary being? See the new thread covenant morality for humanity- the presumption of humanism.
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