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Old 08-10-2012, 08:20 AM
 
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I just noticed this forum and I'm very glad to see it. I'm retirment age but have been reading Bertrand Russell (my hero) since about age 12, and love Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, etc. Really very unhappy in Texas, because with few exceptions, everyone I meet is religious. I recently went through a struggle with cancer, too, and had all sorts of people praying for me. Scary.

My inquiry is this, though: this notion that "everything happens for a reason" troubles me. I know this sounds nice and makes people feel better, but what evidence is there for this? And does it not imply a reason-er (i.e., god)?

Please discusss? Is there an academic name for this nonsense? Why is it so popular? When I hear Oprah and others, state this, I find it annoying.

TIA
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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Robert G. Ingersoll said:
In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments; there are consequences.

which i think relates to that 'everything happens for a reason' none sense. I do believe that everything happens because something caused it to happen (ie. cause and effect)....but that's not what they mean when they say what they say :-)
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:23 AM
 
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everything happens for a reason is just a way to make you feel better about your misfortune. but if it does, i see no evidence of it most of the time. life seems to be a random lottery, and at any time,anything can happen
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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Well, everything does happen for a reason. Usually, that reason is physics.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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Well, everything does happen for a reason. Usually, that reason is physics.
Yes. Good one. Thank you.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:07 PM
 
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the reason is cause and effect
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:44 AM
 
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"Sure it does. And what was that mess in Rwanda about?"
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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I just noticed this forum and I'm very glad to see it. I'm retirment age but have been reading Bertrand Russell (my hero) since about age 12, and love Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, etc. Really very unhappy in Texas, because with few exceptions, everyone I meet is religious. I recently went through a struggle with cancer, too, and had all sorts of people praying for me. Scary.

My inquiry is this, though: this notion that "everything happens for a reason" troubles me. I know this sounds nice and makes people feel better, but what evidence is there for this? And does it not imply a reason-er (i.e., god)?

Please discusss? Is there an academic name for this nonsense? Why is it so popular? When I hear Oprah and others, state this, I find it annoying.

TIA
its actually an incredibley callous thing to say , " everything happens for a reason "
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:46 PM
 
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For those so deluded that they believe their "special friend" determines everything, I have one question;

Why do you look before you cross the street. If you are to make it safely across, as determined by your "special friend" then where is the "faith", just cross the damn street. If you look, then clearly you don't have any faith in what you say you have faith in.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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its actually an incredibley callous thing to say , " everything happens for a reason "
I fully agree... especially when someone tells that to a parent who lost a child.
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