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Old 09-11-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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A super christian relative of mine posted this on Facebook today. I would love to comment, but don't know how to put it. I'm tired of keeping my mouth shut about my lack of belief, and would love to comment, but how? Thanks for your help and input!

"The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who aknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle; that is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable" ~ Brennan Manning

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Old 09-11-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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Look a the 'Atheist forum joke thread'. There must be a joke you can use.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:45 PM
 
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"...that and the fact that babies die--every day--for no reason." -All logical humans who don't believe in an all-knowing, all-powerful 'god'
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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I don't see this as an occasion for a joke or a "comeback", but more as an opportunity to educate your relative a little bit.

For me, and probably for you, atheism has nothing to do with the behavior of religious believers. If there were valid evidence for the existence of any god, whether it be the god of the old or new testament, or Odin, or Zeus, or Vishnu, or Isis, you would have no choice but to believe. The difficulty is that the evidence is equal for every one of those gods and the believers in those gods are equally certain in their belief. Until a body of evidence coupled with a consistent view of reality can be presented that explains everything that exists at least as well as your worldview without the use of any deities you will persist in your rejection of religion.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:57 PM
 
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Not much you can say to that, except maybe that what supposed Christians do or don't do has no bearing on disbelief. It's just a simple fact of no evidence of a deity for the intelligent critical-thinking atheist.
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:01 PM
 
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The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is a functioning, rational brain.
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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I don't see this as an occasion for a joke or a "comeback", but more as an opportunity to educate your relative a little bit.
Yeah, but you gotta admit that posting a pro-Atheist joke would be more fun.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:12 PM
 
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A super christian relative of mine posted this on Facebook today. I would love to comment, but don't know how to put it. I'm tired of keeping my mouth shut about my lack of belief, and would love to comment, but how? Thanks for your help and input!

"The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who aknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny him by their lifestyle; that is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable" ~ Brennan Manning
How about something based on evidence, or so it looks to me from feedback from deconverts.

'While that certainly indicates than many Christians really don't believe, deep down inside, the greatest single cause of atheism seems to be from Christians actually reading the Bible and finding it utterly unbelievable.'
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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How about something based on evidence, or so it looks to me from feedback from deconverts.

'While that certainly indicates than many Christians really don't believe, deep down inside, the greatest single cause of atheism seems to be from Christians actually reading the Bible and finding it utterly unbelievable.'
Perfect! Thank you so much!
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:57 AM
 
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UR welcome.
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