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Old 11-25-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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This law is only there to ensure that tax dollars are not going toward promoting religion on public lands. You can express your views on your own property all you like.
Tax $ not used to set up nativity displays or atheist scenes.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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As Judeo Christian it comes as no surprise that a judge be instrument in banning a public nativity scene. I for one believe that the baby Jesus is becoming an over emphaszied example of religousity as opposed to a celebration of the birth of Christ . Acknowledging Jesus as an adult and His contribution to scripture is far more significant. People of religion generally don't get beyond baby Jesus anyway (not all). Banning this nativity to many of we chrisitians is like an epihany! It confirms that the spirit of anti-christ now manifesting the prophecy pieces of the puzzle and it's all part of a march toward cultural indifference (already in place) the needed "law" (now confirmed) and we now just wait for persecution. It's too cool to put into words and these moronical secular fools haven't a clue what realm they have entered. What was once holy now profane, ,politically incorrect and a flip flop of culture albeit of an opinion more than rights of a insane minority. Evil is elevated by judges, which is a essential element and although nor welcomed or agreed on is understood as a nearly boring replication of ancient nations destroyed by Gods wrath. This nativity thing is small potatoes in hacking God off ,but it's probably on His hit list as are the those even remotely involved. Very dangerous for the town as well. When Harbingers hit innocent people (collateral impact of disaster) will suffer because of those complaining and the judges foolish decision, yet not the big one when we are jailed just mentioning Jesus anywhere. It's also appropriate for a town in Cali to have a judge that needs a new drug!

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Judeo Christian is an oxymoron and you all still ignoring the fact that athiest sign vandalism is the reason why nativity displays were banned
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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As Judeo Christian it comes as no surprise that a judge be instrument in banning a public nativity scene. I for one believe that the baby Jesus is becoming an over emphaszied example of religousity as opposed to a celebration of the birth of Christ . Acknowledging Jesus as an adult and His contribution to scripture is far more significant. People of religion generally don't get beyond baby Jesus anyway (not all). Banning this nativity to many of we chrisitians is like an epihany! It confirms that the spirit of anti-christ now manifesting the prophecy pieces of the puzzle and it's all part of a march toward cultural indifference (already in place) the needed "law" (now confirmed) and we now just wait for persecution. It's too cool to put into words and these moronical secular fools haven't a clue what realm they have entered. What was once holy now profane, ,politically incorrect and a flip flop of culture albeit of an opinion more than rights of a insane minority. Evil is elevated by judges, which is a essential element and although nor welcomed or agreed on is understood as a nearly boring replication of ancient nations destroyed by Gods wrath. This nativity thing is small potatoes in hacking God off ,but it's probably on His hit list as are the those even remotely involved. Very dangerous for the town as well. When Harbingers hit innocent people (collateral impact of disaster) will suffer because of those complaining and the judges foolish decision, yet not the big one when we are jailed just mentioning Jesus anywhere. It's also appropriate for a town in Cali to have a judge that needs a new drug!
Tis a sign that the FSM is gathering his armies to come back and collect his fold to take us all to the great colander in the sky. There the evil will be drained off and the starch rinsed from us, the faithful followers.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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As Judeo Christian it comes as no surprise that a judge be instrument in banning a public nativity scene.
Are you going to tell me with a straight face that you think the (secular) government of the USA and it's political subdivisions should be pushing your religion over others???

Upon what ridiculous theory do you base such a position?
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Tax $ not used to set up nativity displays or atheist scenes.
And your proof of this statement?

These displays (where they are still allowed) are on public property, correct?

Are they paying rent? If not, that is a cost to the taxpayers - use of public property with reimbursement.

Are you saying that cities that put these displays up don't purchase the decorations or pay the people who put them up?

Some people are so naive in their personal justifications.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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You are wrong. America has always been culturally and historically a Christian nation, and have always been dominated by Christians. Jews and Muslims (and all other non-Christians) should respect this, and I'm sure they do respect it. Yes, we have mostly a secular government, but we still have Christian holidays and culture observed it.
No, YOU are wrong. Since the Bill of Rights was passed in 1791, it has been clearly communicated that the United States is a secular country, even if RWNJs want to try to rewrite history.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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Tax $ not used to set up nativity displays or atheist scenes.
But they are being used to patrol nativity scenes. And they are being used in the lottery where the city decides who gets display spaces. And they are being used maintaining those spaces the rest of the year.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: WV and Eastport, ME
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Another victory for intolerance! One more step towards the time when no one will be able to express their views or beliefs in public, because someone is "offended".
The same Amendment that protects your free speech and freedom of religion also protects ALL of us from the government favoring any one religion by allowing it to use public property to stage a display. You are now, and always have been, free to express your own views in public. The only thing intolerant about this is that you would permit a Christian display (in violation of the Constitution) while forbidding any non-Christian displays. I prefer the unilaterally fair "None" to the inherently unfair "One."
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Dental Floss when we celebrate Hanukkah and Christmas at these "specific" periods by a country of predominently Christians/messanics you bet we deserve a celebration of Jesus birth. But as christians we don't NEED a manger or nativity as we are not religious (Jesus had little or nothing to do with religion) You atheist are so screwed up regarding this point where you view religions as christianity (some get a pass for believing in the Son of Man) ,but as christians we distance ourselves not arrogantly or avoidance in fellowshipping, but just distancing(red flag) ourselves from every aspect of manmade dogma, relgousity, intercessory prayer to "anyone" but Jesus, mediators, saints, icons,relics,Popes,ceremonies,sacraments,and all the nonesense that corrupts and blasphems the Lord (Yes of course unintentially and cluelessly) Again as for your big deal on the nativity all we use it for is to nurture our kids as to the origins of Jesus . It's way over empahsized as a spin or whatever the idiots deam it.

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