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Old 01-09-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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Strong atheism helds, that most probably nothing beyond the " natural " universe exists.
Please present good reasons to support that claim.
Positive evidence means, strong atheism must stand on its own feet, without religion bashing etc.

 
Old 01-09-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Please present absolute proof of a negative?
 
Old 01-09-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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ummm..... I don't think atheism "holds" to anything except for a lack of belief in diety.
Here is some evidence for the existance of atheism...
....I do not have a belief in a diety.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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The burden of proof is on the prosecution. Atheist don't care if you become atheist, you're the ones trying to convert us.

There is plausible scientific evidence for how the universe was created and how it operates. There is no evidence for higher powers. And certainly, with the state of the world the way it is, any higher deities don't seem worthy of worship.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 11:19 AM
 
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My belief in a nutshell: I'm not sure how everything got here, but I'm pretty sure magic wasn't involved.

(oh wait, ...was that "religion bashing?")
 
Old 01-09-2013, 12:13 PM
 
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Strong atheism helds, that most probably nothing beyond the " natural " universe exists.
Please present good reasons to support that claim.
Positive evidence means, strong atheism must stand on its own feet, without religion bashing etc.

You're unfairly turning the tables on atheists.

The very name "a-theist" means exactly that: non-theist. Or not believing in a theistic diety or God.

So the burden of proof here lies with the theists, or the believers.

The atheists "evidence" about the universe being solely natural and needing no God would be the Theists' inability to prove otherwise.

The burden of proof is always on the one who claims the existence of something. Just like in a court of law: the prosecution has the burden to prove--beyond a reasonable doubt--that the accused indeed committed the crime.

In a fair and balanced debate, the Believers can't have it both ways: that is, to be unable to prove God's existence and also saying to the atheists, "prove to me also why you don't think there's a God.

That's having your communion wafer and eating it too!

Peace.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 12:59 PM
 
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ummm..... I don't think atheism "holds" to anything except for a lack of belief in diety.
Here is some evidence for the existance of atheism...
....I do not have a belief in a diety.
please educate yourself about what strong atheism stands for.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 01:00 PM
 
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There is plausible scientific evidence for how the universe was created and how it operates.
please expose that evidence, and how it leads to strong atheism.
 
Old 01-09-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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My belief in a nutshell: I'm not sure how everything got here, but I'm pretty sure magic wasn't involved.

(oh wait, ...was that "religion bashing?")
magic is a beloved word used by atheists. how about you explain, how everything came to be without a intelligent mind / creator / god. Why is there something, rather than nothing ?
 
Old 01-09-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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You're unfairly turning the tables on atheists
No, i am not. If you do not want to justify what you stand for, just dont participate at this thread.

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The very name "a-theist" means exactly that: non-theist. Or not believing in a theistic diety or God.
and what does a strong atheist stand for ?


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The atheists "evidence" about the universe being solely natural and needing no God would be the Theists' inability to prove otherwise.
So you rely on a negative ? aka we theists cannot prove God exists, therefore atheism ?

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The burden of proof is always on the one who claims the existence of something.
I have not claimed anything so far.
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