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Old 04-04-2017, 08:16 AM
 
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Ahhhhh.. you don't get how these people are true flatterers! The know that ALL people have a common favourite subject they love to talk about - themselves, their doings, their complaints and what interests them.
I found it funny that I posted that right after TRANSPONDER said this haha
Oh well. Case and point I guess.

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That's some cold stuff
Indeed. Don't wanna dip your hand in there.
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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We've played around with some liquid N2 and CO2 at work. Definitely don't want to get sloppy around that stuff.
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Old 04-14-2017, 06:27 AM
 
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Old 04-14-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Anything with Trump is really annoying
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Old 04-16-2017, 07:50 AM
 
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Default I was just thinking....

After watching a couple of programmes on the Indus valley civilisations and Sumer, I reflected that it had grated on me whenever the narrator said "before Christ'. From my point of view, you might as well say 'Before Santa' At least it would be openly 'B,S'.

So I can't help thinking, inconvenient though it might be, a change of calendar is really needed. While it would appear to be logical to date everything from the formation of the earth or the appearance of life, not only would that lead to dates looking like Zimbabwean currency denominations, the dates are so vague, you might as well have a more modern Year 1 date picked with a pin.

No; better if it was Year 1 of something we know happened and was Very Important. Declaration of Independence? Code of Hammurabi? Collapse of Communism? Birth of Newton?

For me, there is one date that stands out, because it marks a sea -change in human thought and has had massive influence throughout the world, even without it being known.

I refer of course to the publication of Origin of Species. While on the face of it, merely explaining a biological question, it opened up the doors to a revolution in human thought that is still going on today and has hardly seen it's potential - for understanding ourselves, our society and our behaviour. It was that book that (even if nobody knew it at the time) made deists atheists by default.

It would have the handy effect of having Darwin's day made a (global) national holiday and, while it would mean that the entire global calendrical system..(s) would have to be brought into line (before that blasted B.C becomes too entrenched), it would have the benefit of pissing the Christians off no end.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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After watching a couple of programmes on the Indus valley civilisations and Sumer, I reflected that it had grated on me whenever the narrator said "before Christ'. From my point of view, you might as well say 'Before Santa' At least it would be openly 'B,S'.

So I can't help thinking, inconvenient though it might be, a change of calendar is really needed. While it would appear to be logical to date everything from the formation of the earth or the appearance of life, not only would that lead to dates looking like Zimbabwean currency denominations, the dates are so vague, you might as well have a more modern Year 1 date picked with a pin.

No; better if it was Year 1 of something we know happened and was Very Important. Declaration of Independence? Code of Hammurabi? Collapse of Communism? Birth of Newton?

For me, there is one date that stands out, because it marks a sea -change in human thought and has had massive influence throughout the world, even without it being known.

I refer of course to the publication of Origin of Species. While on the face of it, merely explaining a biological question, it opened up the doors to a revolution in human thought that is still going on today and has hardly seen it's potential - for understanding ourselves, our society and our behaviour. It was that book that (even if nobody knew it at the time) made deists atheists by default.

It would have the handy effect of having Darwin's day made a (global) national holiday and, while it would mean that the entire global calendrical system..(s) would have to be brought into line (before that blasted B.C becomes too entrenched), it would have the benefit of pissing the Christians off no end.
Well my dear old fruit bat. We do tend to use the more acceptable BCE and CE now, rather than BC and AD. Won't that do?
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Old 04-16-2017, 01:31 PM
 
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It will do, as it makes the best of a bad job. Common Era makes me wince a bit but it doesn't rasp my teeth.
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Old 04-16-2017, 01:54 PM
 
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So I can't help thinking, inconvenient though it might be, a change of calendar is really needed.

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It would be a lot more than inconvenient. Every publication in existence which references any dates would be rendered obsolete. All electronic devices with built in clocks/calendars would have to be reconfigured. Historians would have to either memorize all new dates, or be math whizzes who can instantly translate old dates into the new system in their heads. Right now I can tell you that Caesar was assassinated in 44 BCE without it requiring a calculator. I'm not enthusiastic about the idea of needing that calculator.

Remember how in the '70's President Carter planned to take the nation over to the metric system? Remember how far that got before everyone gave up because the task was too overwhelming? The change you are endorsing would be the same...inconvenient beyond toleration levels.

I would be all for it as the correct logical move if it could be achieved without requiring so massive an effort, but that is fantasy.

Finally...what date represents the start of history? No matter what you select it will just as artificial as fixing time to the supposed date of the birth of Jesus. You would eliminate the religious error in favor of a randomly selected error.
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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All perfectly true. It would be very inconvenient, though it could be done in a gradual phasing in as books have to be replaced etc. But the need isn't there, really.
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Old 04-17-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You know what I think needs fixing? February. I mean, 28 days? WTF? Can't we have 30 days in Jan, Feb, March & April?
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