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Old 07-10-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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Baloney. Hitler also rejected his faith later and attacked the church and its leader.

Hitler said to a colleague in 1933:

'Neither Catholic nor Protestant has any future left... Nothing will stop me stamping out Christianity in Germany, root and branch. One is either a Christian or a German. You be both... Do you really believe the masses will ever be Christian again? Nonsense. Never again. No one will listen to it again. But we can hasten matters. The clergy will be made to dig their own graves. They will betray their God to us. They will betray anything for the sake of their miserable little jobs and incomes.'
Link to this quote?

 
Old 07-10-2013, 11:45 AM
 
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In your opinion. You have no proof to back up your claims.
Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources - Probe Ministries

^ There you go. Secular source evidence of Jesus Christ besides the Bible.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sc.../21/jesus.box/

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and although there is little agreement on the historicity of gospel narratives and their theological assertions of his divinity, biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted. Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born between 7 and 2 BC and died 30–36 AD. Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea, did not preach or study elsewhere and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and possibly Greek. Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and shortly afterwards was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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The Necessity for Christianity

http://www.jewsandchristiansunitedfo.../Article-5.pdf

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...4112600AATDZgh
 
Old 07-10-2013, 11:52 AM
 
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The Tacitus quote is from 64 AD. He never met this Jesus.
Pliny the younger quote from 112 AD he never met Jesus
The Josephus quote it is believed to be edited. Josephus was not a christian and would not have implied that Jesus was anything other than a man.
The Talmud quotes are from 70-200 AD.
Lucian was speaking about the beliefs of christians.

Do you have any ACTUAL proof, not just hear say?
 
Old 07-10-2013, 11:55 AM
 
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The Tacitus quote is from 64 AD. He never met this Jesus.
Pliny the younger quote from 112 AD he never met Jesus
The Josephus quote it is believed to be edited. Josephus was not a christian and would not have implied that Jesus was anything other than a man.
The Talmud quotes are from 70-200 AD.
Lucian was speaking about the beliefs of christians.

Do you have any ACTUAL proof, not just hear say?
What does it matter if they met him or not? Provide me proof how Earth was created, that 6 million Jews really died during holocaust, the crusades really occured, Buddha existed, Muhammed existed.

There are plenty of people who have met Jesus. Yes, the Bible is 100% accurate.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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The second quote is hear say. And I have plenty of direct quoted from Hitler that said he was a christian.

Still reading the first link.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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What does it matter if they met him or not? Provide me proof how Earth was created, that 6 million Jews really died during holocaust, the crusades really occured, Buddha existed, Muhammed existed.

There are plenty of people who have met Jesus. Yes, the Bible is 100% accurate.
If you believe the bible is 100% accurate, then good for you. I simply don't believe a book because others do.
Go on believing in your myth. Just take it to the christian forum.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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The second quote is hear say. And I have plenty of direct quoted from Hitler that said he was a christian.

Still reading the first link.
Hitler was baptised and was Christian in his childhood and young adult, but then he later rejected his faith and became an atheist. He died as an atheist. What may be confusing is that he both was pro and against Christianity. A true Christian will not talk bs about Christianity, God and Jesus like Hitler did numerous times.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 12:06 PM
 
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What does it matter if they met him or not? Provide me proof how Earth was created, that 6 million Jews really died during holocaust, the crusades really occured, Buddha existed, Muhammed existed.

There are plenty of people who have met Jesus. Yes, the Bible is 100% accurate.
Actually, I was just talking with a student of religion who was telling me about the debate over whether Jesus did indeed exist - apparently, it's something that isn't entirely established.

And tell me, have you fact-checked the Bible? It's got a lot of historical stuff in there that is definitely up for debate, and other parts still are really just opinion or prophecy.
 
Old 07-10-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources - Probe Ministries

^ There you go. Secular source evidence of Jesus Christ besides the Bible.

CNN.com - Scholars: Oldest evidence of Jesus? - Oct. 21, 2002

Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and although there is little agreement on the historicity of gospel narratives and their theological assertions of his divinity, biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted. Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew who was born between 7 and 2 BC and died 3036 AD. Most scholars hold that Jesus lived in Galilee and Judea, did not preach or study elsewhere and that he spoke Aramaic and may have also spoken Hebrew and possibly Greek. Although scholars differ on the reconstruction of the specific episodes of the life of Jesus, the two events whose historicity is subject to "almost universal assent" are that he was baptized by John the Baptist and shortly afterwards was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.
You are walking a very thin line here... No proselytizing in this sub-forum
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