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Old 07-27-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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You truly don't understand atheism, do you?
Have you ever read the Onion. It's about parody..... laughter, good times.

Ok........ please share some of your wisdom with us.
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Old 07-28-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Have you ever read the Onion. It's about parody..... laughter, good times.

Ok........ please share some of your wisdom with us.
Wisdom upon the ears of the deaf is wasted.
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Old 07-28-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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Even if they are doing it in jest, why can't they call themselves a church? Is there some rule or commandment that they are violating?
Church has some meaning associated directly with Christianity. Other religions don't have churches.

The generic word for a religious building is a "temple". But that doesn't work either, nor does shrine. Because these words are associated with worship (temples in fact has roots in polytheism, implying worship of gods happens there).

Assembly works, because it describes "meeting." Forum also would work. But not church or temple.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:42 AM
 
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Church has some meaning associated directly with Christianity. Other religions don't have churches.

The generic word for a religious building is a "temple". But that doesn't work either, nor does shrine. Because these words are associated with worship (temples in fact has roots in polytheism, implying worship of gods happens there).

Assembly works, because it describes "meeting." Forum also would work. But not church or temple.
Good point. It's the media (Daily News) that describes them as a "bikini bar atheist church." They like to sensationalize so they can draw the readers in.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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And yet in your title of this thread you refer to it as a "church".

Now you agree that it isn't what a "church" is normally considered.

Have it both ways much?
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Old 07-29-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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And yet in your title of this thread you refer to it as a "church".

Now you agree that it isn't what a "church" is normally considered.

Have it both ways much?
Actually, it is both a 'church' and an 'assembly.'
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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Actually, it is both a 'church' and an 'assembly.'
Actually, as church is normally defined, it is not a church. Or an assembly.

A gathering perhaps, but that is it.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:12 PM
 
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An actual atheist doesn't attend any "church."
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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Theism and Atheism are two sides of the same coin.

Now you have a congregation of atheists that like to meet on Sundays. They even have a very 'proper' sounding name, The Sunday Assembly.

You better watch out because that's how things start. And you know what they say, " If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck....... "
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:39 PM
 
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Theism and Atheism are two sides of the same coin.

Now you have a congregation of atheists that like to meet on Sundays. They even have a very 'proper' sounding name, The Sunday Assembly.

You better watch out because that's how things start. And you know what they say, " If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck....... "
A "church" started by two comedians?

Get back to me some years down the road when you can show that this is some kind of cultural phenomenon that represents most atheists, and that it's something more than an edge case. Madeline Murray O'Hare's organization still exists too, and it has all of a couple thousand members out of millions after being in business for 50 years.

There is already an environment like "Sunday Assembly" that is atheist-friendly, it's called the Unitarian-Universalist church. If you really want the "sense of community" then who cares if there are super-liberal theists in the mix, who understand "live and let live". If I really had a need for the faux "caring" and a secret desire to cook for pot-lucks, I'd cast my lot with the Universalists rather than gin something new up. But to each their own.
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