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Old 07-29-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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Yes, we absolutely are all very different and the last thing we want is some sort of approved dogma or rulebook about how to be atheist. There may come to be a concensus about the best and most effective way to present it, but some laid down orthodoxy about how to do it is most decidedly not what we need.
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:29 AM
 
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Why An Atheist Church?
In Kaufman v. McCaughtry, 419 F.3d 678 Kaufman argues that the prison officials violated his constitutional rights when they refused to give him permission to start a study group for atheist inmates at the prison, that the defendants' refusal to permit him to meet with other atheist inmates to study and discuss their beliefs violates the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.
Atheism was Kaufman's religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being. As he explained in his application, the group wanted to study freedom of thought, religious beliefs, creeds, dogmas, tenets, rituals, and practices, so when the underlying principle had been examined in the crucible of litigation, the Court unambiguously concluded that the individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all.
That is the definition of a church for the practice of understanding it. The First Free Church of Atheism exists for the study of freedom of thought, religious beliefs, creeds, dogmas, tenets, rituals, and practices, all from an atheistic perspective.

There is nothing more, nothing less, in its purpose.
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:31 AM
 
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The First Free Church of Atheism
is a wholly-owned entity of the Free Assemblage of Metaphysical Naturalists LLC. Elsewhere in Michigan law an LLC is defined as a "domestic corporation." The First Free Church of Atheism accepts the explanation given above, as found under "General Marriage Laws; Michigan; 551.1--551.17 including "Additional Information"; to wit, that a church when defined as a domestic corporation means a 501(c)3 entity.

"Intrinsically separate from government” means that a free church does not allow governments to define its theology or lack thereof, neither seeks nor receives government endorsement or funding for its mission, rejects from principle any such endorsement or funding from government, and is thus endowed with the liberty to act within the confines of the First, the Ninth, and the Tenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States of America, given that the congregation is but made of sovereign citizens itself who reside in sovereign but united States; and also that the governments of the States within which the Church may exist, and the Federal government, are bound by those same Amendments as they apply in law and in precedent on the side of an Originalist reading of the Constitution as regards those bodies of government, or the Church. The right to an Originalist reading of the Constitution is nowhere waived by this LLC.

The term "church" is nomen collectivum; it comprehends the chancel, aisles, and body of the church. [Ham. N.P. 204][2] To the extent that such things exist among the property of the First Free Church of Atheism, that property belongs to the Free Assemblage of Metaphysical Naturalists LLC. [1] The term "church" also includes the members of the congregation, because a congregation does not require chancel, aisles, nor a building of any type in order for the church, as a body of sovereing individuals, to "congregate." A church thus defined as its congregants may "congregate" under a tree, on the internet, by phone, or by any other means that puts them in contact with other congregants for the purpose of church business, or for spiritual purposes.
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:02 AM
 
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That all makes perfect sense and I can imagine that the atheist campaign against the claims of religion is reason enough to have such a "Church". After all many an agnostic is simply content to hold their views and not get militant about it.

In an odd way it is simply the title 'Church' that puts me off. Amongst atheists, Churches have a very bad press and are the least trusted of minorities.
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