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Old 11-18-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Well if we are doing stats:

67
retired
female
single
atheist since in my 20's
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Well if we are doing stats:
56
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atheist for about 18 years
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:00 PM
 
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Well if we are doing stats:
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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Women are more a social being, a whole lot more concerned about what others think, and their approval than they should. Women don't dress for men, they dress to impress other women. Two guys show up at a meeting in the same suit and no one notices or cares. Two women wear the same dress and the drama ensues.
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Old 11-19-2013, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Women are more a social being, a whole lot more concerned about what others think, and their approval than they should. Women don't dress for men, they dress to impress other women. Two guys show up at a meeting in the same suit and no one notices or cares. Two women wear the same dress and the drama ensues.
Have you actually ever seen that happen? I have seen two women show up at a social gathering in the same outfit several times and all that happened was they complimented each other on their good taste in their choice of clothes.
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Old 11-19-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Have you actually ever seen that happen? I have seen two women show up at a social gathering in the same outfit several times and all that happened was they complimented each other on their good taste in their choice of clothes.


^^^ This.

I don't dress for men.
I don't dress for women.

I dress for me.

or

I dress for the occasion.
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Have you actually ever seen that happen? I have seen two women show up at a social gathering in the same outfit several times and all that happened was they complimented each other on their good taste in their choice of clothes.
Actually I've witnessed angst like this but it is not because it was women involved, it was because it was women with a particular social conditioning and cultural acclimatization. I have also observed that very often women are far more judgmental and catty with each other over superficialities of dress, makeup, and general appearance. But men of course are judgmental and catty with each other in their own ways, just over different things and it takes different forms. Worse, they also judge women over superficialities (and often crass superficialities) of appearance, to the point of objectifying them.

But none of this is really about how men inherently are vs women, it is about how a preponderance of men and women are socialized and taught to behave. Thankfully it is changing, largely for the good, although the fashion industry is attempting to draw men into the same vortex of marketing slime as women by selling men perfumes and convincing them that they need esoteric skin creams and hair styling products, etc.
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Old 11-20-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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It's actually a sexist myth that women are more concerned about what others think than men.
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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It's actually a sexist myth that women are more concerned about what others think than men.
I think it's largely a sexist myth but it's a bit more nuanced than that. I think also that society puts harsher and more unreasonable demands on women and therefore they have more to be concerned about. A guy, particularly in my field (IT) can get away with wearing dirty T-shirts and jeans all the time and there is nowhere near that much tolerance for women in my experience. It's the difference in reaction between "boys will be boys" and "what a ****".

Of course, where does that pressure and unequal treatment come from? Other sexist myths. So in a way you're totally correct ;-)
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