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Old 08-21-2013, 01:59 PM
 
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I think Bill Maher does more harm then good. He's a thoroughly unlikable human and it's sad that he's the poster boy for Atheism in America.
I am a fan of Bill Maher's comedy. And trust me when I tell you that American's do not care about his views outside of comedy. Quite often, he puts his foot in his mouth when he is outside the comedy arena (i.e. talking about politics on news channels).

Maher is not the poster boy for Atheism in America. Yes, the movie Religulous put him in the limelight for a while. But I am sure that more American atheists follow someone like Sam Harris than the random babblings about religion from Maher.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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I am a fan of Bill Maher's comedy. And trust me when I tell you that American's do not care about his views outside of comedy. Quite often, he puts his foot in his mouth when he is outside the comedy arena (i.e. talking about politics on news channels).

Maher is not the poster boy for Atheism in America. Yes, the movie Religulous put him in the limelight for a while. But I am sure that more American atheists follow someone like Sam Harris than the random babblings about religion from Maher.
Me too. I like Bill Maher. I'm well aware of his political incorrectness and downright outrageous things he has said in the past, some of which I thoroughly disagree with, however I can forgive him all that because he's not afraid to ask questions, he's not afraid to be educated and he's not afraid to tackle topics that most other broadcasters wouldn't touch. People like that are needed in the media - it's valuable to have an open discussion. It is not necessary to agree with everything they say.
I will admit that lately he's become a bit of a one-trick pony with the atheism thing.
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:27 PM
 
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Default Gross intellectual immaturity and scientific illiteracy on display!

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Mark Twain

Carl Sagan

Thomas Edison
Yessiree, you betcha! Then later, we're treated to the claim that "All atheists are just plain stupid or dense! Like Richard Dawkins! So there!"

Yup. Frankly, I'd love to see some of the "distinguished theist/Christians" here debate, let's say, the likes of the much maligned and auto-hated Dawkins, who so many claim has no religious understanding whatsoever.

Hee hee. Now THAT I'd pay to see on Pay-Per-View TV, even at $59.95 for the show of shows.

They'd be slinking out on their bellies trying to avoid more"incoming" laser-guided comments, all totally supported by objective scientific evaluations!


US Airforce Laser Guided Bomb Strike - YouTube

Like-ah deesss?


Born Again Christian Stephen Baldwin vs Atheist Richard Dawkins - YouTube

Baldwin arrogantly asks: "So... If we evolved from apes, how come they are still there?"

Stupid STUPID question of the day, presented by someone who obviously has not even the slightest idea of, well, anything. Least of all the straightforward Theory of Evolution. (Actually, it's most definitely a Law now, just like the Theory of Gravity is actually accepted as a law.)

So Stephen me mentally young lad... ever seen the upper branches of a tree? Then how is the main base stem is still there? Can something not expand and grow from something else? Apparently in your troubled mind, nope.

My 8 year old cat has more common sense than you just demo'd here. Of course, I do understand your quandary: you're forced to sing the appropriate "company song", right? No matter how ludicrous it is!
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:49 PM
 
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Me too. I like Bill Maher. I'm well aware of his political incorrectness and downright outrageous things he has said in the past, some of which I thoroughly disagree with, however I can forgive him all that because he's not afraid to ask questions, he's not afraid to be educated and he's not afraid to tackle topics that most other broadcasters wouldn't touch. People like that are needed in the media - it's valuable to have an open discussion. It is not necessary to agree with everything they say.
I will admit that lately he's become a bit of a one-trick pony with the atheism thing.
Yes! Some call Bill Maher a LEFT WING NUT .... but I must say that his absurdity is a lot less absurd than those on the other side like: Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, etc.

Maher's HBO show is becoming a little boring. You are right ... I would say he is a two trick pony .. always returning to weed and religion to get a cheap laugh/ applause/ cheer! Maher seems really lame/ unfunny when you compare his show to Jon Stewart's on Comedy Central!
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:55 PM
 
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There's no use throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't come nuttier than PETA, but Bill Maher is not speaking for atheists when he supports PETA. He is speaking for Bill Maher, so there is really no reason for anyone call his political views an embarrassment to atheists simply because they disagree on those political views. I've been around long enough to know that it's quite common for people to be absolutely off their rockers in some areas, but complete sane in others.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:15 PM
 
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There's no use throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't come nuttier than PETA, but Bill Maher is not speaking for atheists when he supports PETA. He is speaking for Bill Maher, so there is really no reason for anyone call his political views an embarrassment to atheists simply because they disagree on those political views. I've been around long enough to know that it's quite common for people to be absolutely off their rockers in some areas, but complete sane in others.
No one is saying that Maher's political views are an embarrassment for atheists. His political views are an embarrassment to him and his fans.

BTW ... why do you find PETA to be so nutty?
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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Oops, harmful, not embracing.
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BTW ... why do you find PETA to be so nutty?
Because they are not only a religion, but a cult. LANGUAGE WARNING


P.E.T.A. - Penn and Teller : BULL****! - YouTube

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Old 08-22-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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Just curious on an individual who kind of really introduced me to the existence of 'athesim' back when I was in Catholic grammar school...Madalyn Murray O'Hair (apologies on spelling..I see that some spell her last name as O'Hare).

She introduced me to 'atheism'. I can tell you she wasn't appreciated much in my religious world. So it brings me today to ask what was her legacy? Arguably I've read that her attitudes sort of molded how non-atheists view atheists today. Certainly she placed herself right into everybody's face. She was tough I'll say that and no doubt didn't make friends. To espouse a philsophy as hers at the time was courageous I think.
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Old 08-22-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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Seth Macfarlane, Julia Sweeney (from SNL), and I think Matt Stone is too (one of the creators of South Park/Book of Mormon the show). I'm a big fan of their talent.

I'm not a follower of celebrities personal opinions, but, I'll give the atheist celebs credit for vocalizing their viewpoints. Since America seems to be obsessed with celebs, at least when some of them speak out about their unbelief, it puts a face (maybe even a pretty one, like Keira Knightly or Julianne Moore) to atheism. It fights the stigma that we're all obnoxious and hedonistic with bad breath and wiry hair - with exceptions of course.
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Old 08-23-2013, 12:53 AM
 
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There are some sites that list Bill Gates as an atheist. He is not. He's has no religious affiliation, but he has never spoken about atheism.
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