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Old 10-08-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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I believe there is a correlation between stupid people and the ones having a bunch of kids.
The dyegenic mating theory has been disproven over and over again. That's based on a "smart gene" which is responsible for all genius. They have studied this theory and it hasn't proven true at all, IQ's are still on the rise. Yet this theory is still popular among certain groups of people regardless of it's accuracy.

That welfare system you think is making nipple sucking idiots is actually playing a large part in preventing the stupid to influence their children because school programs are taking over and creating an environment which prohibits stupidity to flourish. This creates children who are more intelligent than their parents. So the welfare you describe is not guiding people to stupidity, just the opposite.

As far as your retardation spreading, I cannot comment unless you tell me what it is you are talking about. What is wrong with you and why are you in fear of it spreading throughout mankind?

One thing we do lack that our ancestors didn't is reaction time. I doubt anyone here can throw a spear like Tarzan anymore. But, who needs to? We have found more efficient methods for attaining food than our ancestors. I have no doubt in the future we will improve on it even more. It only takes a few bulbs to light an entire room.
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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What is wrong with you and why are you in fear of it spreading throughout mankind?
I am near-sighted, and I have passed it on to my son and at least one grandchild. With glasses I can see 20/20, so it has never been a problem for me.

My condition would have been a terrible handicap 2000 years ago and I probably would not have been able to support a family and procreate.


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I doubt anyone here can throw a spear like Tarzan anymore. But, who needs to?
How about when a good-sized asteroid hits the earth or a super-volcano like Yellowstone explodes, and the surviving humans are plunged back into the dark ages? The poor slobs that are supid or near-sighted will not be able to survive. The ones who prosper may lead to a better human race than we are now.
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Old 10-08-2013, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I am near-sighted, and I have passed it on to my son and at least one grandchild. With glasses I can see 20/20, so it has never been a problem for me.

My condition would have been a terrible handicap 2000 years ago and I probably would not have been able to support a family and procreate.




How about when a good-sized asteroid hits the earth or a super-volcano like Yellowstone explodes, and the surviving humans are plunged back into the dark ages? The poor slobs that are supid or near-sighted will not be able to survive. The ones who prosper may lead to a better human race than we are now.
I've mentioned I agreed before...but I also think you're counting your chickens before they hatch.

There's anxiety disorders, which might be advantageous for living amongst thieves and dangerous wildlife, but disadvantageous for persons in modern society.
There's strength and the urge for violence, which is becoming less valuable in modern society.
There's bodies which use less energy due to being smaller, weaker, and dumber, which could be advantageous in a post-apocalyptic realm, but not beneficial in modern society.

Going back to the dark ages would remove some undesirable genetics, but it would give rise to new undesirable genetics.

Also, the more our devolvement becomes a problem, the more benefit there is to someone finding solutions to it, such as genetic augmentation, which might make our devolvement no longer a problem.

I'm not worried. I'm worried about overpopulation in China and lots of overpopulated third world nations that have yet to become industrialized, and may wreak havoc on the environment should the become as industrialized as the west, but I see our genetic devolvement as a minor concern.

Disease resistance though, you have a point about that, with our population becoming denser, and microbes adapting to our antibiotics, and the power of modern science to create biological warfare....spooky stuff.

Wow, how'd this thread get onto this topic?

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Old 10-09-2013, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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I am near-sighted, and I have passed it on to my son and at least one grandchild. With glasses I can see 20/20, so it has never been a problem for me.

My condition would have been a terrible handicap 2000 years ago and I probably would not have been able to support a family and procreate.




How about when a good-sized asteroid hits the earth or a super-volcano like Yellowstone explodes, and the surviving humans are plunged back into the dark ages? The poor slobs that are supid or near-sighted will not be able to survive. The ones who prosper may lead to a better human race than we are now.
LOL - Ok hiker45, just be content that we have the IQ to make eye glasses. There is also laser surgery if your grandchild feels the need to be free of it. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it though.

If a good size asteroid hits the earth I'll be excited, and might turn religious.
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Old 10-12-2013, 12:31 AM
 
Location: California
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I never thought about it until I was in 3rd-4th grade and someone tried to explain what a "soul" was to me. I didn't get it. Then I attended a Baptist high school for some crazy reason and had to hear about it all the time but I still wasn't buying it. I assumed everyone was playing along just like I was to keep from getting in trouble. It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized people took this seriously, then I was appalled.
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Old 10-12-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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What made you become an atheist?
Nothing made or forced me to become an Atheist.

I came to the conclusion after years of research and biblical study, as well as the study of other religions and mythologies.

When you have investigated and studied as much as I did, there are only two possible conclusions one can draw from the evidence:

1] there is no god, and there certainly isn't some being that sits in judgment on a throne in a mythical place; or

2] there might be some force out there in the Universe, but it doesn't matter because you could never possibly comprehend the nature of the force; it is "True Neutral" and has no interest in you personally; it will do nothing for (or against) you; worse still, doesn't even know you exist; and so what does it matter?

Becoming...

Mircea
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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Atheism is the default belief. Religion comes about through being raised in this or that culture.

Obviously most societies through history and across the globe have believed in gods.

But a person isn't born thinking about a god or gods. These ideas develop from the questions innate and common to humanity: "Where did I come from? Wither do I go? And why?"
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Old 10-12-2013, 07:56 PM
 
Location: SC
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I assumed everyone was playing along just like I was to keep from getting in trouble. It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized people took this seriously, then I was appalled.
Isn't that the truth.
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:23 AM
 
Location: rock island, illinois
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As I kid I was super religious (one of those people who bring up god in random conversations) but the older I got, I realized that there was no evidence in anything religion taught. Science has all answers and it offers the most consistent, factual evidence of the world.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I never set food in a church of any kind for a number of years. I wasn't raised religious and therefore knew little about it until I grew up a bit and started learning - mostly in history class.

Frankly the idea of God made no sense, still doesn't and probably never will. I didn't have to become an atheist. I was born an atheist and didn't become religious.
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