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Old 11-17-2013, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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This^

I couldn't be with a religious person-there's no way that the person could be "perfect" for me except for that "one thing"-
because religiosity encompasses a broad world view in terms of causation, consequences, and interpretations/judgments that I wouldn't agree with.
"Worship" as a behavior makes zero sense to me, I couldn't pretend otherwise.
Good point about the broad spectrum outlook. The god/no god dynamic would represent a symptom of the conflict, not the entire disease. I'm only going to be compatible with someone who is also primarily a rationalist. I would not wish to go through life pretending to respect religion, nor would I want to have to pretend to respect astrology, ESP, channeling, karma, numerology etc. "Honey? I'm looking at the phone bill....were all these calls to the Psychic Hotline yours?"
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: rock island, illinois
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When I got married my spouse was atheist and I am religious Christian. I told her the kids would be baptized and she must come to church on Christmas and Easter, and be quiet about her atheism. We would also have crucifix and bibles in the house, along with Christmas decorations and prayers on holiday dinners with family. Since she loved me she was accepting all of that, and we got married in a cathedral.

Few years later, she converted and is now more religious than what I am. She felt guilty and wish she became Christian long time ago, and is mad at her parents for not raising her with a religion. She now attend church every Sunday and teach Sunday school at a mega church. She converted after watching Passion of the Christ and started after reading the gospels.
You sound like fun
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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A relationship with a woman who is religious is not going to happen. It's too big of an issue for me.
I'd rather be lonely...
Ya right.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Florida
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A relationship with a woman who is religious is not going to happen. It's too big of an issue for me.
I'd rather be lonely...
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Ya right.
I agree with John. I would choose to have no relationship than be with someone devout. The whole religious angle is a 100% deal breaker.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:52 PM
 
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I can't respect a religious person and I have to respect a partner.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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When I got married my spouse was atheist and I am religious Christian. I told her the kids would be baptized and she must come to church on Christmas and Easter, and be quiet about her atheism. We would also have crucifix and bibles in the house, along with Christmas decorations and prayers on holiday dinners with family. Since she loved me she was accepting all of that, and we got married in a cathedral.

Few years later, she converted and is now more religious than what I am. She felt guilty and wish she became Christian long time ago, and is mad at her parents for not raising her with a religion. She now attend church every Sunday and teach Sunday school at a mega church. She converted after watching Passion of the Christ and started after reading the gospels.
Sounds to me like she was never atheist. A true atheist would never have submitted to being TOLD what was going to happen. If my husband TOLD me we were going to baptize our daughter and TOLD me I will have bibles and crucifixes in my house I would have TOLD him how much to pay in child support and got out of dodge. Sounds like your Christian agenda (brainwashing) won that one.
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I can't respect a religious person and I have to respect a partner.
I think it might depend though on how bad they are. I mean are we talking Jesus pics on the wall or more like my husband was. Says his prayers silently to himself , crosses himself and rolls over to sleep. He no longer does that, he's changed as he's gotten older and shied away from religion. What if you were really into the person? I think we can be more forgiving of certain things in the case of love. Maybe?
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Old 11-18-2013, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Super religious? That isn't going to work. Kind of sort of religious? That would probably work.
Ya, I think super religious wouldn't work on their side, rarely if ever would a fundamentalist want to hang out with an atheist. I don't think they could take my jokes. lol
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Old 11-18-2013, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Sounds to me like she was never atheist. A true atheist would never have...
I hear what you're saying, but we can't expect Christians to quit dismissing deconverts as "never was a True Christian" if we're going to make that charge in reverse.

The truth is that some Christians are Christians culturally and by upbringing but never really commit to it and internalize it; and some atheists also are not that mindfully unbelieving and are subject to persuasion and social pressure. BUT, it's equally true that many, many Christians who are deeply sincere and committed later become unbelievers. I have to believe that some people who start in atheism and go the other way are likewise "true atheists" who are persuaded by some argument or other or have some transformative personal subjective experience that they feel compels them to become theists.

I think both sides need to quit being so insecure about people changing their minds. It happens. People are human. We don't gain anything by taking defections personally.
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:45 PM
 
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Then there was the deacon's daughter, but she was anything but religious, thought she cause many a guy to say OMG many times. Insatiable is probably the best way to describe her.
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