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Old 12-05-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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First off, there is an entire forum dedicated to nothing but television, television, programs, cable, etc.


Secondly, unless I missed something relating to your user name and I am missing the irony, I call WTH to your WTH.

As far as your question goes, no, NatGeo is not proselytizing because the "factoid" was about the minerals, not Religion. If it were, then all television programs, media, websites, books, newspapers, Average Joe on the street, etc., etc., are proselytizing atheism by not mentioning Religion in any context every time you come across them, it, etc.


That McDonald's commercial I just saw mentioned nothing about God, Jesus, the Good Book, church, nothing. Therefore they must be speaking towards some type of atheist agenda. Sounds silly, doesn't it.

As for the "factoid" you read in that program about mining, I like it. Martin Luther was a real human being, and that quote, if accurate, is historical: as in, it is a part of real history. I personally do not care if a 13th Century Catholic priest said it, or if it were quipped by Winston Churchill, people shouldn't "worship" money, anyways. Just my opinion, but, history is history, yo.
I'm so very sorry, Luv. I can't answer just now because your animosity is dripping out of my monitor and onto my keyboard.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:58 AM
 
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Originally Posted by K-Luv View Post
First off, there is an entire forum dedicated to nothing but television, television, programs, cable, etc.


Secondly, unless I missed something relating to your user name and I am missing the irony, I call WTH to your WTH.

As far as your question goes, no, NatGeo is not proselytizing because the "factoid" was about the minerals, not Religion. If it were, then all television programs, media, websites, books, newspapers, Average Joe on the street, etc., etc., are proselytizing atheism by not mentioning Religion in any context every time you come across them, it, etc.


That McDonald's commercial I just saw mentioned nothing about God, Jesus, the Good Book, church, nothing. Therefore they must be speaking towards some type of atheist agenda. Sounds silly, doesn't it.

As for the "factoid" you read in that program about mining, I like it. Martin Luther was a real human being, and that quote, if accurate, is historical: as in, it is a part of real history. I personally do not care if a 13th Century Catholic priest said it, or if it were quipped by Winston Churchill, people shouldn't "worship" money, anyways. Just my opinion, but, history is history, yo.
If I may pinch -hit for LaPucelle while she wipes venom off the keys...I haven't seen the programme, but if the show was about minerals, quotes from The OT and Martin Luther's opinion on mining seem inappropriate unless the programme IS about religion. What sounds silly is to argue that the omission of any mention of football, fishing or philately from an advert must mean that the programme is actively against those subjects. Nonsense of course. But mention in advert or programme of 'Jesus would have approved' or 'St Anselm would endorse this view' is playing the religion card in no uncertain way.
To compare one with the other is invalid and either inept or ingenuous (love that word ) argument. Just as to compare quotes from religious figures with a very evident religious slant about mining or minerals with some quote from Churchill or some other figure (not notably connected with religion) using some religious reference in a clearly metaphorical and non religious way, such as 'act of God', 'pray for some disliked politician to meet with an accident' or 'it was a miracle he was able to cut his way out of the wrck with his pocket knife' is also false argument. Again, comparing one with the other is inept or ingenuous argument. Which is it, can you tell us? it certainly isn't valid.
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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If I may pinch -hit for LaPucelle while she wipes venom off the keys...I haven't seen the programme, but if the show was about minerals, quotes from The OT and Martin Luther's opinion on mining seem inappropriate unless the programme IS about religion. What sounds silly is to argue that the omission of any mention of football, fishing or philately from an advert must mean that the programme is actively against those subjects. Nonsense of course. But mention in advert or programme of 'Jesus would have approved' or 'St Anselm would endorse this view' is playing the religion card in no uncertain way.
To compare one with the other is invalid and either inept or ingenuous (love that word ) argument. Just as to compare quotes from religious figures with a very evident religious slant about mining or minerals with some quote from Churchill or some other figure (not notably connected with religion) using some religious reference in a clearly metaphorical and non religious way, such as 'act of God', 'pray for some disliked politician to meet with an accident' or 'it was a miracle he was able to cut his way out of the wrck with his pocket knife' is also false argument. Again, comparing one with the other is inept or ingenuous argument. Which is it, can you tell us? it certainly isn't valid.
Hello there and thanks for your comments. I'm just waiting for K-Luv to decide to come back to the conversation in a more civil manner, so let's hope that is the case IF KL shows up again.

I never knew about LaPucelle! Very well done... I suppose I *would* rather be a warrior than a saint! (No question about the latter!!!) lol
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