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Old 12-05-2013, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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I'll go along somewhat with what others in my orbit wish to do, but my wife and I are both to the place where the commercial, secular Christmas doesn't inspire us to so much as put up a tree anymore. None of the kids will be around on Christmas Day this year, or we'd probably have a special dinner or some such. I'll send a couple of gifts to my grandkids in another state, and I'll get my wife a small thoughtful gift of some sort, and that'll be it.

As empty nesters, we are just too old for all the bustle and stress of the season, so to the extent possible, we ignore it. We gift each other throughout the year, and I would say we make a much bigger deal of Thanksgiving than we do Christmas anymore.

 
Old 12-05-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Yes.

I cut down a tree and put it in my living room, drape tinsel on it, hang ornaments from it, and put presents underneath. Then friends and family come over and we share a nice meal and good cheer.

Can you explain to me what is religious about these things? I'll save you the time - nothing. Nothing at all.

Why this baffles some people is beyond me.
Exactly! That is the way to go. Why be anal about this!

Great post!
 
Old 12-05-2013, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Downtown Raleigh
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Santa Claus = St. Nick (A bishop who gave gifts to children)
Red / Green color = Red stands for the blood of Christ, green (forget, will look up)
Christmas tree star = Star of Bethlehem
Christmas lights = lights leading to Bethlehem (baby Jesus)
Angels = Religious

All decorations and tradition for the holiday are part of Christmas.
Odin
Winter Solstice
Saturnalia
Yule
Tree
Wassailing
Mistletoe
Holly...

Better check that history book.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 11:28 PM
 
Location: WA
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Originally Posted by JulieB8 View Post
Santa Claus = St. Nick (A bishop who gave gifts to children)
Red / Green color = Red stands for the blood of Christ, green (forget, will look up)
Christmas tree star = Star of Bethlehem
Christmas lights = lights leading to Bethlehem (baby Jesus)
Angels = Religious

All decorations and tradition for the holiday are part of Christmas.
You know Christmas trees are banned in the bible right? Jeremiah 1-5?

Oh never mind, Christians only care about the gay-hating parts of the Old Testament.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 04:40 AM
 
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yes i am a athiest i put up a x yule tree(originally a pagan symbol) share gifts with family and friends cook a nice big meal and share it. chrisrians must learn they do not own the day day many other haved used it.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:27 AM
 
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Mythology has always served as a great inspiration for art. Christmas is one of many.

Each year, I attend Midnight Christmas services. I do not bother to take in the eating ritual, as it is of no meaning, but I enjoy the pageantry, the music, the lights. A well presented Christmas service is a work of art, akin to a good opera, a fine production of Shakespeare, or a good concert. It is art, based on mythology, and that is how I see it and enjoy it. I would not avoid it because I do not agree with the religious beliefs behind it any more than I would avoid an opera about Orpheus or refuse to watch Antigone. It is art, a beautiful spectacle of music and lights.

And apparently my attending and enjoying this event somehow causes an Ambrosia cheiranthifolia to become lodged into the distal alimentary canal of certain religious fundamentalists who should have no concern nor, from my point of view, any authority in the matter otherwise. This makes the celebration even more fun.

And if the Buddha statue in the front garden is not enough, the lights outside on my house should help to deter people such as Jehova's Witness who see my garden and turn and walk away.

Interesting, but no fellow atheist on this forum will tell me that I do not have the right in our great nation to attend any religious gathering that I choose. But IF I place this over on the Christian board, I will get dozens of responses, mostly from fundies telling me that I have no right (based on their religious beliefs) to celebrate a holiday the way that I do. Thank You all for ensuring that we never live in a theocracy.
 
Old 12-06-2013, 06:28 AM
 
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