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Old 09-22-2014, 10:39 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Shirina, In what ways is it more prevalent.... more places of worship, more tv exposure, more influential in public matters, other ways? Also, which countries have you been to where it is less prevalent and which ones were it has a strong influence? As you can see I'm interested in this aspect of your post. Also, I haven't done much traveling lately so I only know what I read and see on tv.
Less or no influence:
Canada
Germany
France

More influence:
Saudi Arabia
Iran
Israel
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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This is about an ex Mormon, not an entire organization. I think it proves a point, and that was the point. Are churches responsible to prove their beliefs in order to get money from people or the government?
While during this time places like Hobby Lobby(plus over a hundred more) can change the healthcare system by suing the American government and winning the opt out of covering birth control so women can prevent a health accident all in the name of something unproved in the court of law, or more honestly a spiritual alien being that rules earth with angels that have feathery wings and fly around talking to humans.
If we are allowing that to occur, I see no reason to call this ex Mormons plight ridiculous, nor do I feel the right to act in a more adult manner regarding religious institutions gaining funds from poor sods who are afraid that hell is true. I mean, the brain washing starts at the youngest age possible. In any other circumstance we would allow said mental torture to suffice as an argument but since it's about God we do not.
If said man was suing a cult who taught children from a young age that aliens demanded kids to beg for money I bet that would be seen as abusive and you might have a win.

Sometime, I find it so hard to understand why logic applies in a court of law up until a religious belief is introduced. I'm guessing it's just me and few others at this point, but I sure find it a hard pill to swallow at times.

No wonder new religions are starting every day.. If I invite a few friends over every week and talk about some entity we all think is real then I guess the government will pay my rent. And, I can collect from those friends as well. I don't know, do you think some might take advantage of this?
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Less or no influence:
Canada
Germany
France

More influence:
Saudi Arabia
Iran
Israel
Literally there is us in the U.S., South America and several middle east countries who still hold a majority of one religious ideal and use it within our government as a true meaningful and influential presence. In the rest of the world it's just a personally held tradition or belief.

When our president gives his Christian nation "God bless America" speeches most of the world cringes......
It makes it difficult to be taken seriously, that is why we are made fun of around the world and hated for our religious warring with the middle east.

Donald Rumsfeld's holy war: How President Bush's Iraq briefings came with quotes from the Bible | Daily Mail Online

A photograph of U.S. tanks in Iraq used a further passage from Isaiah: 'Their arrows are sharp, all their bows are strung, their horses' hoofs seem like flint, their chariot wheels are like a whirlwind.'

Anti-war campaigners said the images and words were used by Mr Rumsfeld to curry favour with his boss by playing on Mr Bush's devout religious beliefs.

The Reverend Barry Lynn, of the U.S. campaign group Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said U.S. soldiers 'are not Christian crusaders, and they ought not be depicted as such'.

He added: 'Depicting the Iraq conflict as some sort of holy war is completely outrageous. It's tremendously damaging to America's reputation in the world.'
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