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Old 05-08-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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Even if my child said there was a boogie man under their bed, I would not say there might be.
I would tell them no boogie men exist. And I have no doubt about a boogie man not existing.
Just as I have no doubt about any gods existing.

I'm beginning to think god believers think boogie men do exist.
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Old 05-08-2014, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I'm beginning to think god believers think boogie men do exist.
Of course. That's the essence of the control of religion. Hell, damnation, the inability to reach the kingdom of heaven, limbo, purgatory - all aspects of the boogie man.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Actually, I am setting him up to attend MIT or Georgetown. Who knows, some day my son may invent the next cure for cancer of find a way to terraform Mars for human habitation.

All this while your kids are praying and grovelling "Oh please god help us"

I am teaching my kids to work and make a difference in the world, to do good with their pompous BS....what good are you teaching your kids at a parochial school?
What my kids would be learning at parochial school is how to deal effectively with people who have different belief systems than they do. That will make it much easier for them to collaborate with others on such projects as, say, finding the next cure for cancer or terraforming Mars. A collaboration of intelligent and well-adjusted people is far more effective than a lone know-it-all whom nobody wants anything to do with.

So you're setting your kid up to go to one of the most respected universities in the world... a Christian Catholic university. See the irony or the disconnect here? If not, then consider the distinct possibility that you're not imparting anywhere near the quality critical thinking skills to your child that you believe you are. And certainly not social coping skills.
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:38 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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What about the 1.1 billion people in India...?
You think Santa, the Tooth Fairy, etc, are big there?
And before you try to rattle off some nonsense, I can tell you as an Indian person that there are no expectations of current manifestations of deities/etc wandering the earth.
Always assumed (and continue to assume) that Hinduism is big there. Correct me if I'm wrong (about 2014 India, that is). Given your post I guess I have to assume I am wrong. Is India at large then comparable to many modern-day Jews, who remain "culturally Jewish" but not religious? Cultural Hinduism, is that real, or am I making false equivalencies? 1.1 billion people is a massive total to generalize, though, and given the lack of education of oh-so-many of them, I assume superstition reigns supreme in most quarters of India. As I said earlier, though, correct me if I'm wrong--I really don't know. Population is, as of 2012, estimated at 1.237 billion, for what it's worth (I just googled it...I saw something on Seth Meyers' show earlier where the actor/guest was involved in an Indian baseball documentary (subject matter managed to keep me on the station for a few minutes) estimated the population of India at 1.5 billion, which I assumed to be an egregious overestimate, thus co-prompting (along with your own estimate, which I happen to be reading now) this googling).

Obviously I could google "religion in modern-day India" or somesuch as well, but, I'll wait for your response first

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Old 05-09-2014, 02:45 AM
 
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Good thing the OP isn't a dyslexic atheist. He'd be telling his kid there is no dog.
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:49 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Good thing the OP isn't a dyslexic atheist. He'd be telling his kid there is no dog.
he'd be telling his kid ereht si on dog, which might prompt his child to become either confused to the point of "learned helplessness"-esque inertia, or maybe to become fluent in many more languages than he's likely to attain fluency in otherwise, heh
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:58 AM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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I see Matt more as a disciple of Satre, sitting in a cafe on the Left Bank in Paris, a beret on his head and a cigarette in his mouth -- saying things like, "life iz meaningless". I get it. Sometimes that's me, too
+1...yes, sir. Actually a bigger fan of Guy Debord and Camus and Cioran (to keep it confined to France), but you are certainly correct about where my sympathies (often) lie.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:10 AM
 
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I don't see anything wrong in how the OP dealt with the question - from what he said in the post, he answered honestly, giving his own opinion and stated that not everyone agreed with this view. Surely this is a reasonable approach.

Incidentally, someone mentioned in an earlier post that he had made a mistake in even allowing his child to be baptised. A friend was recently in the same position. We discussed that, as his daughter grew up, he & his partner could answer any questions she would have about religion honestly, from their own view, and allow her to form her own decision, either way. A little bit of water and some words in the meantime would satisfy his partner's need/desire to observe to her religion, but could cause no real harm.

When I "came out" to my family, I was questioned on how I would raise my (presumed future) children with regard to religion. I had to quite strongly defend my position that I would allow them to explore and decide for themselves. I can only imagine the indignation had I asked the same question of my believer brothers & sisters-in-law - "So when you go to church on Sunday, do you tell them this is just your opinion?"
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm Done Making My Kid's Childhood Magical*|*Bunmi Laditan

Happiness, greatness, and wonder should not cone from external sources...kids will become adults and need to know how to create and perpetuate their own awe, amazement, appreciation, and wonder.
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:22 AM
 
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Always assumed (and continue to assume) that Hinduism is big there. Correct me if I'm wrong (about 2014 India, that is).
Hinduism is big in modern India with many of the people being quite superstitious, but Hinduism does not assume gods who walk the earth in modern times. My dil is Hindu and her dad gave up meat in order to ask his gods to cure my grandson's autism (didn't work, of course, but it made him feel better). He is an educated man - a medical doctor who lives here in the US. Everything his large Indian family in India does is centered on astrological dates that are propitious for whatever activity they are planning. For example, my dil and ds had to be married on a certain date. The kids had to have names with specific initials too. Could be one reason why they are now divorced given that my ds is atheist. Dil is really only culturally Hindu, but her dad and mom are practicing and go to Temple often.
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