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Old 06-26-2008, 03:27 PM
 
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It is certainly amazing to me how great of a stranglehold the Christian faith has on black people, most notably. It is so great that I am almost sure many of us who are black barely know 3 black people within our circle of family and/or friends who are avowed atheists or agnostics.

Thoughts.

This is an EXCELLENT QUESTION. I too have often wondered the same thing. And quite frankly, am convinced that the black race has been hoodwinked by Christianity and I believe If black people would open their eyes and see the true history of Christianity they would run away from it. Blacks simply refuse to belive to accept that Christianity was a European invention that the black race was indoctrinated and forced into from the day black people arrived in the United States. In my opinion, Christianity has done absolutely nothing for Black people. Just take a look at the inner cities...there is a Church on almost every single street corner (and this is no exageration) and it seems like almost every other person on the street is either a Preacher, Deacon or Evangelist. All these Churches, all this Jesus, while crime runs rampant in the community. Christianity has done nothing for black people, but kept them in the gutter.
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:31 PM
 
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This is an EXCELLENT QUESTION. I too have often wondered the same thing. And quite frankly, am convinced that the black race has been hoodwinked by Christianity and I believe If black people would open their eyes and see the true history of Christianity they would run away from it. Blacks simply refuse to belive to accept that Christianity was a European invention that the black race was indoctrinated and forced into from the day black people arrived in the United States. In my opinion, Christianity has done absolutely nothing for Black people. Just take a look at the inner cities...there is a Church on almost every single street corner (and this is no exageration) and it seems like almost every other person on the street is either a Preacher, Deacon or Evangelist. All these Churches, all this Jesus, while crime runs rampant in the community. Christianity has done nothing for black people, but kept them in the gutter.
Well T.D Jakes and Crefflo Dollar$ are exceptions, but then again, look at their profession.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:37 PM
 
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I'm a black atheist.
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:39 PM
 
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Many at my school when i was young were ateist or from atheist parents. But of course I went to school in Europe.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:54 PM
 
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Errrmmmm... I'm kind of hesitant to touch on this subject because I think it raises some issues.

I think if you look at American history, it's no secret that slavery is a horrible part of our past. However, it's even sadder (and to me it's quite typical) that Christian slaveowners (or "Masters") taught their slaves the Bible. What's even sadder is that many of these slaveowners fed verses of the Bible that promoted (or failed to condemn) slavery in order to keep their slaves "in check". Keep in mind that any sort of formal education was completely unallowed for slaves in those days so any interpretation of the Bible was done by the "Master". It's no surprise to me, that even 140 years after the abolishment of slavery, that people still stick to their roots in regards to their beliefs. It's just passed down from generation to generation. No one questions it. No one bothers to ask. It's just accepted. I think with the typical Caucasian settlers you won't find much difference. Although they weren't 'slaves', their respective homes in Europe were all or mostly rife with religious fervor. Irish and Italian Catholics, English Protestants, etc.. etc.. all form a part of this country. Not much has REALLY changed except that people are speaking out and against religion a little more than was ever socially or legally allowed.

Anyway, anytime you have groups of people that have it really, really 'tough' such as the slaves of the 1500-1800's, the following inhumane equality that African Americans had in the early 20th century, or any other 'tough' time you'll find that religion becomes a little more deeply rooted. I think it's one of man's ways of coping with the unfairness of life. It doesn't mean it's true, it's just a way to deal with the bad things in life. "Life got you down? God is there." "Are you being treated unequally? God is there!" "Sad about the death of a loved one? God is there!" I think that many people bind to that because it gives them hope that there is a better thing than just this plain old miserable life. It's a way to cope, a way to deal. However, I'm forced to think that if there were no concept of God than people would strive harder to make their lives better. A belief in God says "Don't uprise, God will be there when you die." A belief in God says "You don't have to make things better for yourself, God will do that." In the end, it seems to me like far too many people throughout history have sat around waiting for God to do something and he never did it. What a waste!

I think there's a lot more to African Americans being Christians or believers than just the history of America but I think this is where you'll find the largest cultural impact of Christianity on African Americans.
You know... you're absolutely right. I am part African American, and I never took the time to think about it. But everything you said puts it into perspective.

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Old 06-26-2008, 10:57 PM
 
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I know this is irrelevant to the topic, but I find the term African-American highly offensive.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:01 PM
 
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I know this is irrelevant to the topic, but I find the term African-American highly offensive.
Tell me more...
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:02 PM
 
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The entire premise of your post is obviously to bash Christianity, so I'm not sure anything I say at this point will change your crusade...

BUT I would like to point out that Christianity spread through Africa LONG before the slave ships arrived (as a footnote Islam also later spread into Africa long before the "slave ships" showed up too.) Over a thousand years in fact.

Many of those enslaved already had a Christian faith and to assume that they are ONLY following the religion of their masters is simply false.

You may continue on with your rant without interruption from us uneducated, fundementalist, racist, bigots now.
I thought the only place in Africa that had Christianity was Ethiopia. Northern Africa had Islam and the rest of Africa had they're own tribal gods.
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Old 06-27-2008, 03:29 PM
 
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I thought the only place in Africa that had Christianity was Ethiopia. Northern Africa had Islam and the rest of Africa had they're own tribal gods.
I believe you are correct. African nations had their own religions. Hence, Sub-Sahara African countries had absolutely no historical connection to Christianity.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:19 PM
 
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It is certainly amazing to me how great of a stranglehold the Christian faith has on black people, most notably. It is so great that I am almost sure many of us who are black barely know 3 black people within our circle of family and/or friends who are avowed atheists or agnostics.

Thoughts.
I know me. That's about it.
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