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And that can be interpreted two different ways, according to the bias.
Yes of course, but inherently, theists are JUST as vulnerable to the accusation. If they think atheism is unsupportable and invalid and silly, and has no leg to stand on, is no credible alternative to their Rightness ... then why do they spend ALL their time going ON AND ON about it?
It doesn't occur to most of us apostates to even ask such a silly question, but it occurs to them all the time. For some reason we unbelievers don't need that particular straw man, nor find it attractive. The closest we come to that is suggesting that constant preoccupation with gay sex -- even specific KINDS of gay sex -- may reflect a denied attraction to it. And that is irresistible mainly because it p.o.'s them so beautifully, PLUS there's a great deal of actual truth to it, not so much in that they're literally gay as that they must deny the humanity of gay people and thereby deny the possibility that even some eensy-weensie part of them might lean the other way under the right circumstances.
Which suggests a mechanism for the theist seeing covert fascination with god in unbelievers. Maybe it's a projecting of the only way they know how to defend themselves against the Unthinkable -- they do it by otherizing and dehumanizing people who don't agree with them. So they assume that we must be doing the same thing. Indeed, even assuming that we regard god as "unthinkable" is a projection.
Did I make a mistake...should I have written this in the Religion section?
Hmm, maybe the people that have odd perceptions of atheists won't read over here.
Oh well, would not be my first mistake! Ha!
Carry on...(btw, I was surprised to see people discussing 'moi'...didn't expect that.)
Did I make a mistake...should I have written this in the Religion section?
Hmm, maybe the people that have odd perceptions of atheists won't read over here.
Oh well, would not be my first mistake! Ha!
Carry on...(btw, I was surprised to see people discussing 'moi'...didn't expect that.)
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Yes of course, but inherently, theists are JUST as vulnerable to the accusation. If they think atheism is unsupportable and invalid and silly, and has no leg to stand on, is no credible alternative to their Rightness ... then why do they spend ALL their time going ON AND ON about it?
It doesn't occur to most of us apostates to even ask such a silly question, but it occurs to them all the time. For some reason we unbelievers don't need that particular straw man, nor find it attractive. The closest we come to that is suggesting that constant preoccupation with gay sex -- even specific KINDS of gay sex -- may reflect a denied attraction to it. And that is irresistible mainly because it p.o.'s them so beautifully, PLUS there's a great deal of actual truth to it, not so much in that they're literally gay as that they must deny the humanity of gay people and thereby deny the possibility that even some eensy-weensie part of them might lean the other way under the right circumstances.
Which suggests a mechanism for the theist seeing covert fascination with god in unbelievers. Maybe it's a projecting of the only way they know how to defend themselves against the Unthinkable -- they do it by otherizing and dehumanizing people who don't agree with them. So they assume that we must be doing the same thing. Indeed, even assuming that we regard god as "unthinkable" is a projection.
There does seem to be a lot of misperception. The one about the ongoing evolutuion debates leads the believers to suppose that Evolution theory is a tenet of atheism or it is the readon we do without Godfaith.
The odd thing is that we don't talk that much about a possible creator - that's usually brought up by theists trying to get the Godfact on the table so as to build the Bible-god fact on that. I can't recall a discussion that got that far..yes I can. One or two who said there was only the one god and that was the one all the religions believed in (so it was implied) but onlty the Christians had the Belief about that god right. I recall i argues that this was simply the 'which God?' argument in different words and the discussion ended there.
I recall a lot of talk about 'Anto -religionists' in the past and there was a good point there. Organized religion is really what atheists are militant about - not Theism as such. Though of course there is no apparent need for us to believe in gods, afterlifes or divine Creators.
Si the Beleivers really don't seem to get it that it is organized religion we are beefing about, rather than possible gods.
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For some reason we unbelievers don't need that particular straw man, nor find it attractive. The closest we come to that is suggesting that constant preoccupation with gay sex -- even specific KINDS of gay sex -- may reflect a denied attraction to it. And that is irresistible mainly because it p.o.'s them so beautifully, PLUS there's a great deal of actual truth to it, not so much in that they're literally gay as that they must deny the humanity of gay people and thereby deny the possibility that even some eensy-weensie part of them might lean the other way under the right circumstances.
If the mods feel it needs shifting, shift it they will.
