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I can see it being a nice transition for someone who truly craves the community and belonging of a church, but without the religious trappings. I personally wouldn't be particularly interested, mainly because I spent enough years in church to know that I loathe spending my free time dealing with other people's egos and drama.
I can see it being a nice transition for someone who truly craves the community and belonging of a church, but without the religious trappings. I personally wouldn't be particularly interested, mainly because I spent enough years in church to know that I loathe spending my free time dealing with other people's egos and drama.
That is a legitimate point. I would definitely be more enthusiastic about what I'm attempting at the UU society if that weren't in play. The reality of course is that it's in play everywhere, and while it's often amplified / colored by theist ideation, it is not really an effect of theism so much as of the human condition. I have ceased involvement in various secular non-profits and charities over the years over just those issues too. I have fired clients over those issues. At the same time, no man is an island, as they say. I'm getting old, my wife would be walking with a cane if she weren't too proud to, and I'm not far behind. In my dotage, I'm going to have to lower my standards if I want community. Why do you think people go into old folk's homes? Most of them hate the idea, much less the reality, and yet just up the road from me the assisted living palace is doubling in size this year. Part of my strategy for staying out of there is to be part of a community that helps each other out and cares for one another as a matter of principle. The other part is buying my way into an aging-in-place organization that will facilitate any in-home care we will need in years to come.
My 72 year old brother just left after visiting here for a week and didn't make it home. He's in the hospital a couple hundred miles from here with some puzzling vertigo issue that overcame him yesterday while they run MRI scans on him. That's me in a dozen or so years. It puts me in mind of a bit of prose I read the other day concerning someone's late mother. She made this comment to her son ... when you get to a certain age, death is no longer a remote possibility, it moves in across the street and you have to stare it down from your front porch. It changes the equation.
Maybe this is at least part of the origin of the "no atheists in foxholes" fantasy that theists are always ginning up. They confuse pragmatic preparation for death, for a fear of death. Or they confuse a fear of the process of dying with a fear of death itself. Death holds no terror for me; oblivion actually appeals to me. It's the process of getting there that's the problem.
Perhaps the bottom line is that it doesn't really matter. Apart from providing cheap ammunition for the religious snipers.
Atheists - providing they don't step across the line from the Golden Rule to the Asshat Ambience (1) can do what they like.
(1) just to be clear, taking out writs against cafe owners who have napkins with religious quotes on or Bookshops who put cardboard nativity scenes in the window at Yuletide (to give hypothetical examples) or who organize Zombie Jesus marches or Christian Forum trollsquads are getting that way, and tearing down religious posters never mind shooting Muslims in car- parks is what atheism would say is unacceptable behaviour.
Aha, just as I said. Collectivization generates orthodoxy and orthodoxy leads to dogma.
Everyone knows that the true prophet of Darwin had to be a direct descendant. You Dawkinsites are following a false prophet, and if there was a hell, you'd certainly be going there as a consequence.
What to do about this? I suggest a 1300 year pointless feud with periodic slaughter.
Aha, just as I said. Collectivization generates orthodoxy and orthodoxy leads to dogma.
Everyone knows that the true prophet of Darwin had to be a direct descendant. You Dawkinsites are following a false prophet, and if there was a hell, you'd certainly be going there as a consequence.
What to do about this? I suggest a 1300 year pointless feud with periodic slaughter.
Your failrue to understand is palpable The True Successor Of Darwin Is Chosen By Natural Selection, not by mere human - devised family systems. and is to be Known By An Excess Of Capital Letters And Headslaps!!! Now admit defeat or I shall cast you down with an torrent of Bloc Capitals...UNDERLINED!!!
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Sorry, I have plans....
What a pity..my suicide bloviators could have used a good kaboom...
So, I see this as a comic hall with a few Monty Python wannabees passing the pipe of peace around while talking **** about a bunch of crazy people who give their life up to siting around with a few Jesus wannabees passing a bowl around collecting money for new vehicle needed to save humans from themselves and a x-con named Satan.
Sort of like we do on here. lol But at this atheist church we round ourselves up for them unknowingly waiting to get shot by the wannabee Jesus followers who've now raised enough money to get that van and amo, and now they will use it to rid the world of the x-con Satans followers, (which we blindly think are Muslims) but to our surprise it's us.
No thanks, I'll wait to be forcefully rounded up thank you very much. I'll stick to the internet and that way I only have to worry about the computer savy random shooter.
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The True Successor Of Darwin Is Chosen By Natural Selection, not by mere human - devised family systems. 
I'll stick to the internet and that way I only have to worry about the computer savy random shooter.
