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Old 09-05-2017, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Huh?
Perhaps it's a quiz!
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Old 09-05-2017, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Huh?
Just the standard "you create your own reality" nastiness: translated, "It's all your fault somehow".

After all, if you really think you can close the causal loop in that fashion, there's no other conclusion you can come to other than, "I don't have to have empathy or compassion or any level of responsibility for my fellow man because all their suffering is self created."

It is really the new age version of the Gospel. The Christian "good news" is that although god thinks you're a worthless miscreant who deserves eternal punishment, if you will accept your worthlessness and the unmerited favor of your tormentor, you can at least provisionally escape his native revulsion toward you. Here, it's just the need to accept that you're a clueless loser who brings all your misfortune on yourself but the good news is you can bring good fortune too, because, as we all know, "thinking makes it so".

These are great beliefs for the lucky, the strong, and/or the delusional. Doesn't work so much for others.
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Old 09-05-2017, 08:03 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I kinda glanced around here...got a sense...all my input is...Huh?
Every single solitary thing that has ever happened to us ...from birth parents to money or poverty ...cancer or health is our doing...
Ok, is that too radical to hear?
I should change and be more sensitive to all the delicate flowers...it's a gradual change over for me...
Another way:
Then, everything I ever had occur was only because of my doing ....there...easier to swallow?

Following the mode of insensitivity...WHO doesn't know that? There is nothing 'outside' causing things...fellas. Dah.

Don't believe me...Put it to the test!
I think we goddless bastards would all agree that we (humans as a bunch) are responsible for our own doings, but the fact is that nature does what it does, and if we get in the way, the result are often unfortunate. There is no more point railing about it that giving thanks to God for it. The only thing we can ever do is treat it as a problem and try to deal with it.

I don't know if that answers the question, but, if it doesn't, I don't know what the question was.
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Old 09-05-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: USA
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Let me clear this up once and for all. There is a difference between anger/hating toward God and being and not believing in him. I don't necessarily need atheism "pushed" on me, I just want to relate to somebody and get some hope. Things have been very cold for me.
You aren't angry at lord Voldemort or the Wicked Witch of the west for the harm they caused, ARE YOU? That would be foolish, since they don't exist. Being angry at make believe characters serves no purpose. Go ahead and be angry at God if it makes you feel better. Being angry at make believe characters causes no harm.

Everyone goes through tough times. So you are not alone. You might consider just how much better off you might be, if you managed to avoid tough times by making rational decisions based on real life conditions, instead of decisions based on make believe.
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Old 09-05-2017, 11:53 PM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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You aren't angry at lord Voldemort or the Wicked Witch of the west for the harm they caused, ARE YOU? That would be foolish, since they don't exist. Being angry at make believe characters serves no purpose. Go ahead and be angry at God if it makes you feel better. Being angry at make believe characters causes no harm.

Everyone goes through tough times. So you are not alone. You might consider just how much better off you might be, if you managed to avoid tough times by making rational decisions based on real life conditions, instead of decisions based on make believe.
BOOOOOOOM!
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Old 09-06-2017, 04:01 AM
 
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You aren't angry at lord Voldemort or the Wicked Witch of the west for the harm they caused, ARE YOU? That would be foolish, since they don't exist. Being angry at make believe characters serves no purpose. Go ahead and be angry at God if it makes you feel better. Being angry at make believe characters causes no harm.

Everyone goes through tough times. So you are not alone. You might consider just how much better off you might be, if you managed to avoid tough times by making rational decisions based on real life conditions, instead of decisions based on make believe.
That's against their religion. They are commanded to remain stupid and not think for themselves.


Proverbs 3:5-6New International Version (NIV)

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.


Amen
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:25 AM
 
Location: USA
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That's against their religion. They are commanded to remain stupid and not think for themselves.


Proverbs 3:5-6New International Version (NIV)

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.


Amen
Kesamutti Suttaṃ
(A.i.188)
The Buddha’s Discourse to the Kālāmas

Mā anussavena: "Do not believe something just because it has been passed along and retold for many generations."

Yesterday's wisdom can become today's nonsense. - Tired of the Nonsense
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Old 09-06-2017, 01:13 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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That's against their religion. They are commanded to remain stupid and not think for themselves.


Proverbs 3:5-6New International Version (NIV)

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.


Amen
And, if he doesn't it's probably what you deserve, after all.



Matthew 21.22
If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."

Mark 11,24.
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.


Check the small print before you buy it.
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