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Old 05-14-2018, 09:29 PM
 
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...the pontiff and the physicist met at the Vatican in November 2016 for a scheduled meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, of which Hawking was a longtime and valued member. The academy has no belief requirements for members.
You are aware that the Catholic Church and the Church of England aren't the same thing, right?
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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It's called Pascal's wager.

Most Atheists are not sufficiently well-read to have heard of it...
Bwahahahahahaa! Dude, seriously: Most atheists can rattle off the flaws in Pascal's wager in their sleep. There's no nice way of putting this: You're out of your depth. Occam's Razor isn't a magic formula, you have to actually show it applies.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:33 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Bwahahahahahaa! Dude, seriously: Most atheists can rattle off the flaws in Pascal's wager in their sleep. There's no nice way of putting this: You're out of your depth.
No one mentioned it in this thread. You can use the search function to verify.

Anyway, I'm done with this site, as I mentioned. I'd be happy to talk to educated Atheists, but there are none to be found. Not here anyway.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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It's called Pascal's wager.

Most Atheists are not sufficiently well-read to have heard of it, but basically Hawking figured "what if Christians are right?"

(I've decided to stop posting on this site, because people are not very educated here. They don't understand references to Nietzsche, Occam's razor or Pascal's wager. It's a waste of my time.)

LOL.
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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LOL.
He cleverly brought debating techniques into the discussion.
Unfortunately, he didn't necessarily know much about the discussion (his comments about Buddhism were so far off the mark as to be laughable).
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Old 05-14-2018, 10:45 PM
 
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It's called Pascal's wager.

Most Atheists are not sufficiently well-read to have heard of it, but basically Hawking figured "what if Christians are right?"

(I've decided to stop posting on this site, because people are not very educated here. They don't understand references to Nietzsche, Occam's razor or Pascal's wager. It's a waste of my time.)
Most atheists are not sufficiently well-read to have heard of Pascal's Wager? 😆😂🤣
It's been beaten to death on here multiple times.
I somehow think if that if we can all pick giant holes right through Pascal's Wager, Stephen Hawking might just have been bright enough to do the same.

Anyway, I'm glad you have decided to stop wasting your time here.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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He cleverly brought debating techniques into the discussion.
Unfortunately, he didn't necessarily know much about the discussion (his comments about Buddhism were so far off the mark as to be laughable).
Are you confusing me with someone? I may have written that Bhuddism is a religion (Which it is. See Wikipedia:

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Bhuddism is a religion.
in the very first sentence)

Now I know Atheists are super-suspicious. They are going to go to Wikipedia and say: Aha, it actually says "Bhuddism is a religion and dharma"!

Well, notice the "and" there, geniuses, as in "Weinstein is fat and old". Not "or".

(I'm really leaving this forum. You are unworthy opponents)
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:11 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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(I'm really leaving this forum. You are unworthy opponents)
Yeah...so you said...and then started another thread.
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:55 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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It's called Pascal's wager.

Most Atheists are not sufficiently well-read to have heard of it, but basically Hawking figured "what if Christians are right?"

(I've decided to stop posting on this site, because people are not very educated here. They don't understand references to Nietzsche, Occam's razor or Pascal's wager. It's a waste of my time.)
Your decision, but in my experience, Thinking Atheists are not only well acquainted with Pascal's wager, Paley's watchmaker and Lane -Craig's Kalam but know how to refute them and post a headslap icon every time they see a theist field this stuff as as argument.

I don't doubt that Hawking wouldn't have been fooled for long. "What. If. Chris -tians, Are .Wrong -and -the. Mus -lims. Are .Right".

Oh, and poor old Nietzsche. We don't need to worry too about him these days. He saw the Question. Now we have the answers.

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Old 05-15-2018, 05:49 AM
 
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It's called Pascal's wager.

Most Atheists are not sufficiently well-read to have heard of it, but basically Hawking figured "what if Christians are right?"
Most atheists know Pascal's Wager. Specifically, they know that it's a remarkably vapid 'argument' that is nonetheless widely embraced by theists. Usually, atheists will wait for a theist to trot it out, which after all is faster and cheaper than tattooing I'M REALLY GULLIBLE AND NEVER THINK THINGS THROUGH on one's forehead, and serves the same purpose. It's comparable to holding to a 6000-year-old Earth, or the classic vapor-canopy. That's how idiotic it is.

PS - The slightly less clueless theists will dress Pascal's Wager up under a different name. This reveals their extreme paucity of arguments, but at least demonstrates that they know on some level what a complete joke the argument is, and so try and pass it off as something else. Thus, they deserve a point or two for a minimum threshold of self-awareness. Only the really dumb ones openly gloat about the supposed logic of Pascal's Wager by name.
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