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It’s sad that religious people still feel obligated to force their religion upon others. Contacting these isolated tribes is illegal yet that didn’t stop this man from thinking some good ol’ religious indoctrination was needed. Good on these tribespeople for defending themselves.
That story reminds me of this story.
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Pastor EATEN by crocodiles trying to walk on water
Jonathan Mthethwa was killed by three crocodiles as he carried out a religious demonstration in Zimbabwe.
Shocked witnesses said the clergyman had “prayed the whole week” before the stunt went tragically wrong.
He had also fasted in the lead-up to the attempted miracle, which was inspired by a Biblical tale of Jesus walking on water during a storm.
Horrified members of the Saint of the Last Days Church said the pastor was completely devoured in a “couple of minutes”.
He promised he would demonstrate his faith to us today, but he unfortunately ended up drowning and getting eaten
He had waded around 30 metres into what was known locally as 'Crocodile River'. At this point he had promised his congregation he would rise up above the water.
Instead he was brutally attacked by a group of crocodiles who had been hidden in the deep water.
Deacon Nkosi said: “The pastor taught us about faith on Sunday last week.
“He promised he would demonstrate his faith to us today, but he unfortunately ended up drowning and getting eaten by three large crocodiles in front of us.
The attack occurred when the pastor was attempting to walk on water
“We still don’t understand how this happened because he fasted and prayed the whole week.”
I gather that they did. The choice is to leave an island of rare poisonous snakes strictly alone, and those who venture there should know the risks, defang the snakes or turn them into handbags
They don't have to understand germs, the Indian government that forbids anyone to go within 3 miles of the island understands it..
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Yes, we are all aware of above. However, I was responding to the idea that they were justified in killing a visitor because of their fear, not India's fear, that he was bringing disease and pointing out that they would have no way of knowing anything about how disease was transmitted.
Probably better for these savages to get a taste of disease now, so their children don't have to grow up in fear of the outside world.
This isn't really an issue of religion -these are people that would murder a shipwrecked sailor.
I agree - that isn't an issue of religion. And would be off forum -topic. The issue really is - when you come down to it - should religion be above human law? This guy was defying the laws of a country in obedience to what he thought was a Higher command. It is slightly more satisfying that he ended up with an arrow through his Gizz, than he was grabbed by an Indian customs boat and was now in a Goan Jail loudly protesting how he was being martyred and Indian Christians were bricking windows in Mumbai. Neat ending For once, God got it right.
I agree - that isn't an issue of religion. And would be off forum -topic. The issue really is - when you come down to it - should religion be above human law? This guy was defying the laws of a country in obedience to what he thought was a Higher command. It is slightly more satisfying that he ended up with an arrow through his Gizz, than he was grabbed by an Indian customs boat and was now in a Goan Jail loudly protesting how he was being martyred and Indian Christians were bricking windows in Mumbai. Neat ending For once, God got it right.
I think the issue of religion, might be better made with a comparison to the Islanders themselves, as a closed society controlled by myths - the nasty germ narrative, which preaches death to all those who dare believe otherwise
I think the guy that did that is <<cut>>. It's a shame he got killed, but it's his own fault and nobody else's (if you don't count the people who brainwashed him).
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Reason: Let's not call people retarded.
It is illegal to go to the island, illegal to have contact with the people. By Indian law (the island is part of India's territory), islanders can't be prosecuted because India regards them as a sovereign state and not under Indian judiciary rules.
There have been multiple attempts to visit/study the people and all of them have been hostilely turned away - probably because the first British contact with them in 1880 was also hostile and aggressive (on the part of the British, who captured and kidnapped several islanders).
I don't think your example is quite right, as it covers an ordinary thing to do - more like "they were warned that the mineshaft, which is marked private property, no trespassing, do not enter, dangerous unstable conditions, would collapse and they went down it anyway and it collapsed." In that example we DO say "they should have known better."
This was also not his first attempt to get on the island, it was his sixth, so he was perfectly aware that what he was doing was illegal and potentially hazardous.
Of course, I also don't have a lot of sympathy for people who, say, climb Everest and die. There was what was supposed to be a "touching" true story about a man dying of injuries and altitude sickness who was on the radio with his pregnant wife up until he died. He chose to climb Everest, knowing the risks. Now how is his wife supposed to explain to their child, later on, "it was more important for your father to climb a mountain for his own ego than it was to be here to see you born and be there for you as you grow up." (Which does NOT apply to soldiers, police, fire people killed in the line of duty/public service.)
This isn't a supposed story. I remember reading it in the newspapers at the time and then it was later covered in Jon Krakauer's book Into Thin Air about the 1996 disaster on Everest. The man's name was Rob Hall, and he was a climbing guide from New Zealand. His wife was also a mountain climber whom he had met on Everest and who would have been with him except for her pregnancy. Their child is now in her 20s.
I doubt very much that she would have put the "for his own ego" twist on it. Most likely she told her daughter that her father died while working, doing what he loved, and what she loved, too. Agreed that it's not comparable to the death of a first responder, but these were people who lived a life of risk.
I think the guy that did that is <<cut>>. It's a shame he got killed, but it's his own fault and nobody else's (if you don't count the people who brainwashed him).
Yes, that is true too. While the dude has an element of what he elected to do, the religion that gave him the belief to act upon - or not - has to shoulder some of the blame. The Indian government perhaps should consider giving the Island some kind of medal (as we gave Malta George cross) for ridding the world of an asshat.
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For once, God got it right.
