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Old 04-21-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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Cathedral schools were in place before the universities were created.

Cathedral schools began in the Early Middle Ages as centers of advanced education, some of them ultimately evolving into medieval universities. Throughout the Middle Ages and beyond, they were complemented by the monastic schools. Some of these early cathedral schools, and more recent foundations, continued into modern times.

Bishops began to establish schools associated with their cathedrals to provide the church with an educated clergy. The earliest evidence of a school established in this manner is in Visigothic Spain at the Second Council of Toledo in 527.[1] These early schools, with a focus on an apprenticeship in religious learning under a scholarly bishop, have been identified in other parts of Spain and in about twenty towns in Gaul (France) during the sixth and seventh centuries.

During and after the mission of St Augustine to England, cathedral schools were established as the new dioceses were themselves created (Canterbury 597, Rochester 604, York 627 for example). This group of schools forms the oldest schools continuously operating. A significant function of cathedral schools was to provide boy trebles for the choirs, evolving into choir schools, some of which still function as such.
And still it took almost 2,000 years for the population of Europe to equal that of ancient Rome at it's greatest power.

 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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Wow, Isaac Newton the greatest scientist in world history went to Cambridge. Yeah, Newton discovered NOTHING.
Isaac Newton lived AFTER 1231

400 years after the universities you named.

1,400 years after Catholicism started.

And he was not a Catholic.

You may need some tablets* for your headache.

* not invented by Catholicism.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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Nevertheless, atheists contributed nothing during that era.
Even your straw man newbie atheists can see how stupid this assertion is.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:39 AM
 
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As for your video...simply put, Bishop Barron is FOS
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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I can't think of one regular poster on this forum who is a "newbie Atheist".
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Well, that is bad. They sound like newbie atheists.
They sound like your construction of a 'newbie atheist' ... to you.

Which says nothing about them and only speaks of you.

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OK, here is a great example of a NEWBIE atheist. Basically looking at the issue from a simplistic binary manner with no analysis of the era.
AA isn't an atheist. He claims to be but repeatedly espouses some vague cosmic woo drivel.

You sound a lot like him, actually, in that he hits on some vacuous phrase that means nothing except what he wants it to mean (which changes from post to post) and repeats it over and over - like you do with your 'newbie atheist' soundbite - and he essentially thinks that all atheists except him (he's not one, but thinks he is) are idiots and it's his job to school them all on their idiocy - again, like you.

On the other hand, you don't begin every post with 'lmao' and you seem familiar with the concepts of spelling and grammar.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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And still it took almost 2,000 years for the population of Europe to equal that of ancient Rome at it's greatest power.
The Romans were not atheists; they were polytheists. As I said before history is like the stock market.

In this era in 2019 we have plenty of retrograde thinking among atheists too. Just go to any social justice university and check out the sociology department. The vast majority of the professors are atheists that embrace Marx.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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As for your video...simply put, Bishop Barron is FOS
Watch Richard Dawkins on cultural Christianity. In any event your argument is very poor and SJWesque.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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Even your straw man newbie atheists can see how stupid this assertion is.
Name the contribution of at least one atheist of that era.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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They sound like your construction of a 'newbie atheist' ... to you.

Which says nothing about them and only speaks of you.



AA isn't an atheist. He claims to be but repeatedly espouses some vague cosmic woo drivel.

You sound a lot like him, actually, in that he hits on some vacuous phrase that means nothing except what he wants it to mean (which changes from post to post) and repeats it over and over - like you do with your 'newbie atheist' soundbite - and he essentially thinks that all atheists except him (he's not one, but thinks he is) are idiots and it's his job to school them all on their idiocy - again, like you.

On the other hand, you don't begin every post with 'lmao' and you seem familiar with the concepts of spelling and grammar.
A grammar error does not invalidate an idea. Just sayin'

Lois Lee & Stephen Bullivant, A Dictionary of Atheism (Oxford University Press, 2016).
Wolff, Gary, in The New Atheism, The Church of the Non-Believers reprinted in Wired Magazine, November 2006

"New Atheists". The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Retrieved 14 April 2016. The New Atheists are authors of early twenty-first century books promoting atheism. These authors include Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and Christopher Hitchens. The 'New Atheist' label for these critics of religion and religious belief emerged out of journalistic commentary on the contents and impacts of their books.

Hooper, Simon. "The rise of the New Atheists". CNN. Retrieved 16 March 2010.
Ostling., Richard. "Is the "New Atheism" any different from old atheism?". Retrieved 12 October 2013.

De Waal, Frans (25 March 2013). "Has militant atheism become a religion?". Salon.com. Retrieved 9 March 2017. Why are the 'neo-atheists' of today so obsessed with God's nonexistence that they go on media rampages, wear T-shirts proclaiming their absence of belief, or call for a militant atheism? What does atheism have to offer that's worth fighting for? As one philosopher put it, being a militant atheist is like 'sleeping furiously.'

Bullivant, Stephen; Lee, Lois. "Militant atheism". Oxford Reference. Oxford Reference. doi:10.1093/acref/9780191816819.001.0001/acref-9780191816819-e-76 (inactive 21 September 2018).
 
Old 04-21-2019, 08:55 AM
 
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Isaac Newton lived AFTER 1231

400 years after the universities you named.

1,400 years after Catholicism started.

And he was not a Catholic.

You may need some tablets* for your headache.

* not invented by Catholicism.
I never said Newton was a Catholic. Nice strawman dude. All I said is that he attended a university founded by the Catholic Church.

A great example of newbie atheism here.
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