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If you've learned anything in life, you should know that christians are liars.
So, reading what christians translate from Hebrew texts isn't really a smart thing to do.
You need not have gone to all the trouble, you are preaching to the choir when it comes to issues of Biblical reliability. The original fairy tails from which we have our common stories of Hansel and Gretel, or Cinderella, were rip roaringly violent and grotesque. What we know as those stories are the Christian sanitized versions. When those stories are referenced in modern times, it is commonly understood that it means the sanitized editions, not the authentic original.
What I wrote about Job is the common understanding of the Job story by Christians, irrespective of authenticity. It is from that common understanding that Christians are supposed to extract moral lessons. My post was about how bizarre those particular moral lessons are.
I do believe that "the adversary" or "the opposition" as I have also seen it translated, would of course be seen by a Christian audience as Satan.
There is an oxymoronic aspect to the notion of arguing about a fable's authenticity.
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Regarding Job-I worship a God of the impossible and bizarre, who likes to test people's faith and endurance, and I am a-ok with that.
Good to know you think it's OK to kill someone's spouse and children as a test. Now I'd like to know where you live, in order to avoid living there myself.
I've always thought that the worst thing about religious faith is that it destroys the ability to think clearly.
Good to know you think it's OK to kill someone's spouse and children as a test. Now I'd like to know where you live, in order to avoid living there myself.
I've always thought that the worst thing about religious faith is that it destroys the ability to think clearly.
As Steven Weinberg said about religion: "With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
How true that is. I have heard/seen many different angles of beliefs in a "God." It is beyond frustrating, confusing, and offensive. They're all over the spectrum, ranging from "love/accept/don't judge" Christians to far-right and some in between. No one can agree on worshiping a single "God." It's unbelievable and the things some have done "in HIS name" are beyond embarrassing.
As Steven Weinberg said about religion: "With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
I don't often do this but Not to so would be discriminatory
I don't believe in any sort of god or gods and while no jetliner has fallen on my heat or a volcano erupted under my feet or something, I can't claim that no disaster has ever befallen me. Then again, if the disaster that did befall me happened because I don't believe in some deity ..... maybe Jesus did it to punish me for not believing in him? Which makes me think - why would anyone want to worship a deity that would do such a thing?!
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