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Old 12-12-2015, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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The way some people tell it, you'd think this was reality:

Nation
By the horns of Beelzebub, one day it WILL be like this! Hail Satan! Er ... happy holidays.
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Old 12-13-2015, 01:19 AM
 
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The way some people tell it, you'd think this was reality:

Nation
Great stuff there! Love the Onion.

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Old 12-13-2015, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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By the horns of Beelzebub, one day it WILL be like this! Hail Satan! Er ... happy holidays.
The thing is, there are people out there who would read that article and say the part in bold without irony.
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Old 12-13-2015, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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The thing is, there are people out there who would read that article and say the part in bold without irony.
I think the article was trying to make a side point about how Christians don't realize to what degree the Christmas heritage they are clinging to is corrupted already by its pagan origins and the productization of rampant capitalism. I am willing to actually believe, though, that most Christians who have these kinds of concerns about an imagined "war on Christmas" would not include "Have a Holly Jolly Christmas" or Santa dolls in what they are trying to preserve. But you are right, they do seriously think they are victims of persecution when in fact there are just increasing numbers of people who aren't impressed with their legends.

What such people actually bemoan is the loss of Christian hegemony over societal norms. We are becoming a more diverse society and that requires acknowledging and respecting other people's experiences and beliefs, not just our own. That looks / feels like an assault (war on Christmas) only because they're used to a place of privileged belief. The end point is not the extinction of their belief but its coexistence with other, equally valid beliefs. And what they can't handle it the notion that they should have to share the sandbox -- that their belief is not the one true faith but just another option on a smorgasbord.

Of course, if they acknowledge the validity of other's experiences and beliefs it is in a sense the death of their core belief that they and only they have things right. That is what they live in terror of.

Well as the tee shirt I'm wearing today says, "Come to the Dark Side -- we have cookies". It's not so bad really, being humble and inclusive.
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:01 PM
 
Location: "Arlen" Texas
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Vegetarians eat vegetables. Pescatarians eat fish. What do Unitarians eat?
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:08 PM
 
Location: USA
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What such people actually bemoan is the loss of Christian hegemony over societal norms. We are becoming a more diverse society and that requires acknowledging and respecting other people's experiences and beliefs, not just our own. That looks / feels like an assault (war on Christmas) only because they're used to a place of privileged belief. The end point is not the extinction of their belief but its coexistence with other, equally valid beliefs. And what they can't handle it the notion that they should have to share the sandbox -- that their belief is not the one true faith but just another option on a smorgasbord.

Of course, if they acknowledge the validity of other's experiences and beliefs it is in a sense the death of their core belief that they and only they have things right. That is what they live in terror of.
Absolutely. As a former fundamentalist, I know the feeling well.

I'm glad I managed to escape.
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Vegetarians eat vegetables. Pescatarians eat fish. What do Unitarians eat?
Unitards?


Sounds a bit dry...
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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Unitards?


Sounds a bit dry...
Not after crossfit class....
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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Vegetarians eat vegetables. Pescatarians eat fish. What do Unitarians eat?
I'll say.....unicorns
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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Vegetarians eat vegetables. Pescatarians eat fish. What do Unitarians eat?

A. They do not eat because they never can agree on what to have.


B. Un-oins (these good because they don't make you cry when you cut a lot of them on the cutting board)


Unitarians are basically good honest folk who try to live by the 10 suggestions...
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