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Unread 01-15-2009, 03:41 AM
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Location: Sydney
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Investigations revealed that ExtenZe’s lead content was beyond the legal limits.
So some company took the old saying "put some lead in your pencil"
lead in pencil - Idioms - by the Free Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. , literally?
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Unread 01-15-2009, 07:32 AM
 
Location: NC, USA
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I have a feeling that the site will appeal to those who already use their critical thinking skills (and already don't fall victim to any of those "dangers") and will be completely lost on those who don't understand or use their critical thinking skills. Is it possible to scare someone into thinking critically?
I strongly suspect that Panic is detrimental to critical thinking. Also, this may be the best evidence I have seen for "Natural Selection" Yeah, I know, two separate topics, but.....I just couldn't resist.

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Unread 01-17-2009, 03:22 PM
 
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I strongly suspect that Panic is detrimental to critical thinking. Also, this may be the best evidence I have seen for "Natural Selection" Yeah, I know, two separate topics, but.....I just couldn't resist.

... but i strongly support that suspicion. (who's left being suspect?)
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Unread 01-20-2009, 09:35 AM
 
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First off.. kudoes to atheism and agnosticism. I'm there.

Second- I haven't seen anything on "what's the harm" that I disagree with.
The only thing I disagree with is the GPS navigation systems section.

If you are stupid enough to take a right into a lake because a GPS receiver told you to....you need to be thinned from the herd.
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Unread 01-21-2009, 02:34 PM
 
Location: DC Area, for now
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Fascinating site and some very scary facts and statistics. It really does make you think that rational thinking can save your life ! Great website Troop !

I would take issue with some herbal remedies and homeopathy issues though, my great grand mother was a wondrous source of herbal remedies and they worked pretty darn well , I don't think she had any claims to curing cancer but if you had a cold or twisted an ankle she did a lot better than over the counter medicine.

As someone who constantly bruises for example, Arnica cream is more effective than any pills any doctor has ever given me and it prevents the formation of bad bruising if applied immediately. I have taken some homeopathic remedies for various ailments, the majority did not work but a couple did wonders notably after having a wisdom tooth extracted.

I think a lot of alternative medicine is just old fashioned medicine, and herbs are after all still a huge component of modern drugs so I would not be too quick in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Aspirin is after all very little more than white birch bark and people all over the world have known its uses for centuries and used it accordingly. The Rainforest is being exploited for its wondrous plants which will probably form the mainstream of future cures fr various illnesses and diseases.

I think a lot of alternative medicine is a lot of hooey too but not all of it. Some of it ALONG modern medicine has its merits as long as it is not a replacement for the more conventional medicine. I also think that we take far too many drugs and chemicals and that occasionally turning for more natural things is not always bad.

That said there is a vast industry of charlatans who deserve pillorying for abusing people at their most vulnerable. Basically though I think one can more "alternative" and still use reason. My great-grand mother was also a wondrous bone-setter by the way and did it to me when I damaged my wrist. Very effective.

Brilliant site though, a real mind and eye opener.
I really agree with all of this. As one who has a long history of reacting badly to pharmaceuticals and I have had doctor's tell me that their hand will never write me a NSAID prescription "because I can't treat you for the reactions you have!", I have searched out many an alternative treatment with good success. These include exercise/stretches, herbals, and a few other things.

Unfortunately, modern medicine isn't very good at treating a number of chronic conditions and all too often it isn't very scientific either. There have been many a standard medical treatment that has been used for decades but when actually tested, they find out it is ineffective or even dangerous (HRT, anyone?). Old wives tales? There are lots of old doctor's tales too. Plus there is a disturbing tendency to be pill pushers....
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