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Old 03-10-2009, 10:18 PM
 
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Vatican Defends Excommunication Of Mother, Doctors Of 9-Year-Old Girl Who Had Abortion After Being Raped

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A senior Vatican cleric has defended the excommunication of the mother and doctors of a nine-year-old girl who had an abortion in Brazil after being raped.
Religion is at the root of everything bad in the world. Every war, every hurt, every prejudice, every genocide. It just sickens me.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Rivendell
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That story just disgusts me. There is nothing moral about forcing a child to give birth. It seems like the catholic church is taking one step forward in accepting evolution, and one step backward in excommunicating catholics who are doing what is sensible.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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That story just disgusts me. There is nothing moral about forcing a child to give birth. It seems like the catholic church is taking one step forward in accepting evolution, and one step backward in excommunicating catholics who are doing what is sensible.

which - in answer to the op's header - has nothing to do with true "religion". (2 wrongs don't make a right; throwing out the baby with the dirty bathwater isn't exacty the sensible thing to do.)
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:04 PM
 
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The Catholics once again show that their dogma is more important than people, whatever the circumstance. I used to be one. I never had the honour of being officially excommunicated, unfortunately.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:07 PM
 
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So a 9-year-old should be forced to suffer the rest of her life for somebody else's wrong? Why should the living have to play second fiddle to fertilized eggs? An egg that was fertilized against her will, I might add?
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:10 PM
 
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The Catholics once again show that their dogma is more important than people, whatever the circumstance. I used to be one. I never had the honour of being officially excommunicated, unfortunately.

oh? not living far enough away from rome? ever seen how easy it is to get your marriage annulled, in the right places and cases?

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Old 03-10-2009, 11:19 PM
 
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There was a famous Catholic priest who had powers to heal people. People would bring their sick to him from all around. He was a deeply loving man.

My grandfather was terminally ill as an infant (back when that meant there was no ICU to pull you back). His mother took him to this priest, he healed him. I am alive today because of that man.

I share your frustration with religion. Trust me. Just don't throw the baby out with the holy water. There remains profound wisdom hidden within.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:33 PM
 
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I share your frustration with religion. Trust me. Just don't throw the baby out with the holy water. There remains profound wisdom hidden within.
I'm not really sure I "get" your post. I think you might think I'm confused about religion? I'm not. I think it's a horrible thing and wish it would go away.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:06 AM
 
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Vatican Defends Excommunication Of Mother, Doctors Of 9-Year-Old Girl Who Had Abortion After Being Raped



Religion is at the root of everything bad in the world. Every war, every hurt, every prejudice, every genocide. It just sickens me.
I have always felt the ban on birth control and abortion was linked to the need for new Catholic members. If you look in Latin America where the Catholic Church is so strong and note the size of the families, you will also see a lack of higher education.
When the Church preaches no birth control it accomplished several things. The family with more children than they can afford will skip on higher education, and often basic education. This gives the Church fertile grounds to fish in others who will follow their myth because they have not been exposed to real knowledge. Add to that, the parents who need an excuse for having too many children are given the ability to blame god for their poor planning. Responsibility can be passed on to the invisible power in the sky, and last it gives them a larger market base to hunt new members. The perfect Catholic environment; a large population of uneducated people with little hope of improving their lives are much less likely to turn their backs on a promise of something better after they die.
In looking at the polls last week I read the main reason the Catholic Church had not dropped more in membership in the US was the influx of people from Latin America. This also explains why the Southwestern US is where we see the highest level of Catholics today. It will be interesting to see how the slow building economy in the US and thus many workers returning back to Mexico will affect the next poll on Catholics growth in the United States.

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Old 03-11-2009, 07:07 AM
 
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[quote=Bluefly;7829657]There was a famous Catholic priest who had powers to heal people. quote]

Actually, there wasn't, in the sense you mean. This kind of thing has been debunked over and over. 'Healing power' isn't part of the human identity, unless you mean the human ability to create medications and such. But you don't mean that.

And what is sickening about these 'healings' is that when the sick child isn't 'healed', the child is blamed for not being 'pure' and not 'believing' enough.
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