God talking to people (delusion, agnostic, beliefs, faith)

[coosjoaquin]

Hey guys, can we all partake in a very simple mental excercise?

-Assume that during some point in your life you have heard a voice inside your head. You could have heard it while driving the car, while you ate or even while using the shower. You could have heard it in a dream and woken up with a cold sweat; it evokes a very powerful feeling within you.

-The voice could have told you anything: How to improve your life, a warning on impending doom, instructions on how to cure cancer, that there is a person that needs to be killed, the winning lottery numbers...anything.

The question now becomes "how do you determine what is it? How do you know what it isn't?"

[Roxolan]

Originally Posted by zaicheg

anything but sane.

Fact is, no cuckoo admits being off the rocker, just like no alcoholic admits having a problem with the bottle. There is a river in Egypt, what's the name...

Yes, some people claim to hear the voice of God.

Others hear the voice of Allah, or Elohim. Obviously they can't all be right. This is proof that it's possible to be sane, honest, convinced of hearing divine inspiration, but wrong.

Remember, too, than for these things there is a heavy confirmation bias. People make hundreds of dreams each years, but a single dream that turns out to be true will be seen as proof of prophetic powers.
And I don't know about you, but every now and then I do have "instincts", weird compulsions to do or not do something without any rational reason. It will not have any effect whether I obey it or not. But statistically, some day, it will have a dramatic effect one way or another. Beware of confirmation bias.

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

if moses were alive today he would 1st be jeered on CDF then given medication.

Well yeah. If we are to believe that he existed and that the Bible is an accurate recording of his words, he probably was crazy.

[Miss Shawn_2828]

Originally Posted by coosjoaquin

Hey guys, can we all partake in a very simple mental excercise?

-Assume that during some point in your life you have heard a voice inside your head. You could have heard it while driving the car, while you ate or even while using the shower. You could have heard it in a dream and woken up with a cold sweat; it evokes a very powerful feeling within you.

-The voice could have told you anything: How to improve your life, a warning on impending doom, instructions on how to cure cancer, that there is a person that needs to be killed, the winning lottery numbers...anything.

The question now becomes "how do you determine what is it? How do you know what it isn't?"

Well, one would have to test the spirit by the spirit if you know what I mean.

If you have a close relationship with God and you are listening for His voice then you will have already gotten to know Him, so you can recognize Him. If not you are subject to listening to any voice that you hear.

Yea, I wish that we could have a meaningful debate without the disrespect and ignorance from people.

Everyone does not believe in God but can still have a respectable conversation and debate.

These are just things that I do when I and listening for God's voice, but someone may do something else. Is there something that you do or do you not believe in God or believe that He has a voice?

[catman]

Originally Posted by shawn_2828

Know one expects you to believe anything that you don't want to believe, but you don't really know if they are hearing from God or not.

No, I don't really KNOW. I don't really KNOW there is no Easter Bunny either; it might be hiding somewhere in Kyrgyzstan. My point is that rationality tells me that it is extremely improbable. The idea that people do whatever the voices in their heads tell them to do is frightening.

[Miss Shawn_2828]

Originally Posted by catman

No, I don't really KNOW. I don't really KNOW there is no Easter Bunny either; it might be hiding somewhere in Kyrgyzstan. My point is that rationality tells me that it is extremely improbable. The idea that people do whatever the voices in their heads tell them to do is frightening.

YEs, it is if someone just listens to any voice, but to listen to God's voice is amazing.

[Haaziq]

I remember watching Bill Maher's show and they were having a discussion about this. Oddly enough, two guests (one Christian and one Muslim) agreed that people who say they hear a divine being speaking to them are insane.

[Boxcar Overkill]

This is part of the emperors new cloths of Christianity. You have to pretend you hear the voices in order to reaffirm that you are a christian.

In churches where people speak in tounges, it's the same thing. They would be better off if they admitted no one hears the actual voice of God.

[Miss Shawn_2828]

Originally Posted by Haaziq

I remember watching Bill Maher's show and they were having a discussion about this. Oddly enough, two guests (one Christian and one Muslim) agreed that people who say they hear a divine being speaking to them are insane.

Can you provide the link or information so we can read that for ourself.

[Haaziq]

Originally Posted by shawn_2828

Can you provide the link or information so we can read that for ourself.

YouTube - An amazing Bill Maher Live. Guests Discuss Religious Fanaticism

[Miss Shawn_2828]

And what was this video going to prove. The person who was christian didn't say anything about someone hearing a voice and being crazy and the person who was muslim didn't say it either.

The guy in the middile only said that we are hearing religious voices of condemnation and separation and once again says nothing about hearing a divine voice and the person being crazy.

I'm only hearing opinion, but don't hear what you said.

I remember watching Bill Maher's show and they were having a discussion about this. Oddly enough, two guests (one Christian and one Muslim) agreed that people who say they hear a divine being speaking to them are insane.

So, your comment and post is a lie, the christian women and the muslim guy didn' say anything about what you said. Yea, the guy in the middle did, but who is he. LOL he doesn't represent anyone.

Does one guy who is atheists represent all atheists?

And the christian or muslim didn't agree, that was your words.