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Old 05-01-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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I know there are a few anti-religion atheists posting in the forum, but the majority here are not anti-religion, like myself. I just would like religion to stay out of politics, and not preach to me.

By the way, mod, what the heck is an "orphaned quote"?? Just curious...


Sizzly, I appreciate your thoughts, but the OP's point, I think, was to show that that these poor atheists got a way bigger response than they'd anticipated, and that this concept of there being no God-figure is growing in popular acceptance. Thanks god. There' probably been a lot more of them (us) out there all along, but they were afraid of the Wrath of the Church Goers being wrought on them.

You know, book burnings, torches, pitchforks and free rides outa town in an empty boxcar? The usual signs of religious tolerance and love.

We do, after all, have Freedom of Speech in this country, as well as Freedom from Religion. Constitution and all. Guaranteed.
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Old 05-01-2009, 04:37 PM
 
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Thats true. If you even hint that you don't beleive in God, you get all sorts of negative reactions, even the infamous "Where do you think you came from then?" question.

So its been historically easier to just stay quiet or play along and pretend your "one of them" for the sake of getting thru things peacefully.

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By the way, mod, what the heck is an "orphaned quote"?? Just curious...

Sizzly, I appreciate your thoughts, but the OP's point, I think, was to show that that these poor atheists got a way bigger response than they'd anticipated, and that this concept of there being no God-figure is growing in popular acceptance. Thanks god. There' probably been a lot more of them (us) out there all along, but they were afraid of the Wrath of the Church Goers being wrought on them.

You know, book burnings, torches, pitchforks and free rides outa town in an empty boxcar? The usual signs of religious tolerance and love.

We do, after all, have Freedom of Speech in this country, as well as Freedom from Religion. Constitution and all. Guaranteed.
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Old 05-03-2009, 01:46 AM
 
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We aren't. It is the way the theists approach us and tell us that if we just try their way we will be saved for eternity. Funny how all the different sects have the same opinion of themselves.

BTW, wouldn't know about alcoholics anonymous meetings, do you have first hand knowledge?
Yes, I took a friend to one about 15 years ago. It was a good experiance. It was too bad he was compelled to go. If something is forced on you it generaly doesn't work. That reasoning is why I don't believe that people should be forced to believe one way or another or that a government should interfere with peoples religious rights.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:16 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Yes, I took a friend to one about 15 years ago. It was a good experiance. It was too bad he was compelled to go. If something is forced on you it generaly doesn't work. That reasoning is why I don't believe that people should be forced to believe one way or another or that a government should interfere with peoples religious rights.
Well, a second experience once fifteen year ago certainly makes you and expert!

You admit that forcing a behavior on someone doesn't work, yet here you are preaching your "truth" in a forum whos name should give even you a hint that this behavior is not welcome. Bit of a double standard there.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: OKC
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So it's like an alcoholics anonymous meeting? lol. I have no problem with someone being a non believer. I just wonder why Athiests are so anti the practice of any religion.
I'm one of the anti-religion people, (except for religions like Reverend1111's, who teach love, peace, tolerance etc.) It's all the hate-filled, celebrations of ignorance like mainstream Christianity and Islam practice that I can't stomach.

But I think it would be too boring to go to a regular meeting of atheist, if all you do is sit around talking to other atheist about how stupid all these religious fairy tales are. It would be a little like church, only for smart people.
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Old 05-04-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: OKC
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By the way, mod, what the heck is an "orphaned quote"?? Just curious...

I think it is a quote from a post that has sense been erased.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:07 AM
 
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Well, a second experience once fifteen year ago certainly makes you and expert!

You admit that forcing a behavior on someone doesn't work, yet here you are preaching your "truth" in a forum whos name should give even you a hint that this behavior is not welcome. Bit of a double standard there.
Predos, Predos, Predos.... I never claimed to be an expert on A.A. I was asked if I had ever attended a meeting and I answered honestly. I have not tried to convert anyone on this thread. I just answer honestly. These threads have given me insight on how the athiest thinks. The only hatred I have seen on these threads is that espoused by Athiests against Christians, Jesus, and anyone else who practices organized religion. Of course that goes double for anyone who defends such practices. I appreciate that insight.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Predos, Predos, Predos.... I never claimed to be an expert on A.A. I was asked if I had ever attended a meeting and I answered honestly. I have not tried to convert anyone on this thread. I just answer honestly. These threads have given me insight on how the athiest thinks. The only hatred I have seen on these threads is that espoused by Athiests against Christians, Jesus, and anyone else who practices organized religion. Of course that goes double for anyone who defends such practices. I appreciate that insight.
Typical religious thinking. Disbelief and disagreement = hatred...Where exactly is this hate you claim to see?
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:37 AM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Except without all the preaching, saving, tongues, gossip, crying, prostelyzing, hypocrisy, myth, and money changing hands, yeah, aside from all that, you're right.
You forgot, faking fainting and falling backward.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Typical religious thinking. Disbelief and disagreement = hatred...Where exactly is this hate you claim to see?
Agreed. Anything that does not agree with the religious agenda is, to them, hatred. Any expression of disbelief is hatred. Anything that they do is all loving kindness with the intent to bring us to their god. They don't even see this as preaching to us poor heathens. A major blind spot of the religious is their inserting themselves into situations where they know they are not welcome, claiming it is to "educate" themselves, and crying when their views are proven wrong.

I am sure that some do not come to the A&A forum, just as some of us do not go into the Christian forum. The ones who do come here come with an obvious agenda (which they all deny). Maybe some day they will learn, discussion is welcome, preaching is not.
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