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But of course you can't explain just WHY or HOW my thoughts are nonsense, point by point, can you? You just don't like it, so "it is nonsense".
Well then. How can I argue with that stunning logic? You win!
Well. I will try.
The star in Christianity - that means?
The calendar is in Christianity.
Astronomy - an ancient science.
The Christianity is a science.
The Christianity cannot vs science.
Christianity - a way of life by certain rules of the nature.
Miracles - to distract attention . Illusion .
Can you truly appreciate the inner complex beauty of our natural world that evolved, obviously, into such integrated efficiency? (Of course it's all a great "fit" each to the other. If it wasn't, that little "experiment" in niche-fitting obviously failed, or didn't "optimize", and the experiment was repeated a billion times, but with another trial version. Eventually, you got what we see today. Simple, huh?)
I mean, it's apparent to those of us who have taken the time to go out there for a large percentage of our observant and sentient lives, bolstered by education gleaned from those observant souls who preceded us and took the time to carefully document what they found.
Then, given a well-organized and precise Scientific Method, this guarantees that what they saw can be validated, can be repeated and is therefore of considerable value and believability. to the logical at least. The peer review process also gives sort of accumulating "validation points" to those who do this for a living, who become well-known in their areas of expertise. In time, we look to their statements and determinations as being, probably, accurate and reliable. (Understandably, BTW, I also find that the more accomplished the scientist or observer, the more cautious and speculative their pronouncements. They don't want to lose their hard-won credibility!)
So. As an example, a religious observer may well enjoy the beauty of a hummingbird at their garden feeder, exclaiming "Isn't God's work fascinating? How else can you explain the abilities of this tiny bird? How else can you explain that he functions, being so tiny and all?"
And that's it. They stare at it, all wonderous and awe-struck. But that's it! End game, fini!
Now comes a bright young ornithology grad-student who builds on the previous works of so-and-so, who, in the late '60s, speculated about the inner biomechanics and biochemistry of hummingbird wing muscles but the tools we have today just weren't available. such as: DNA analysis, electron microscopy, ultra-high speed digital photography and graphics analysis.
Precisely because of those tools, and everything that's still to come, we'll not only learn the inner workings, but also by which lineage these amazing creatures arose. We can gaze at them in knowledgeable wonder, not in open-mouthed innocence.
To me, that trumps the religious approach any day. You agree?
I can appreciate the complexity of your definitions and hypothesis based on a rote memorological system of trusting in the build upon doctrine of science. But until perfection reigns, it is conjectured curiosity.
The point that remains ever vacuous it the prime mover. Where does it all begin, who lit the match to the BANG!
Even a fool knows a house in the desert is proof of a designer.
Disclaimer I haven't read the posts, just the original posts.
Yes, I think that scientists sometimes treat science with a similar dogmatic attitude that reminds of me of religious fanatics. And it bothers me just as much as religious fanaticism.
Just for argument's sake, show me proof that religion is not from "the mind of man" too.
And no, some passage in the bible claiming to be god speaking does not count.
Religion?
There are historical records of events and peoples that support religion is real.
Oh, then there is the whole thing that we are more than physical beings, and that we have unseen qualities that make us unique to the whole story of this planet.
Anyone that has studied fighting arts, understands clearly the power of spiritual energy. The unseen powers of intent, conscience, will, etc....
These are spiritual/religious aspects that gives us a unique, and powerful perspective.
Science is a tool, if we find a better tool, we will use that.
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