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Old 11-17-2009, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I agree that a person 'on the clock' should not be inviting store customers to a personal event OR speaking to your daughter about it instead of you.

In a public non-working setting though - wouldn't it be fine for someone to invite you to an event, to which you could simply respond "No Thank you"?

By the title of the thread I assumed someone came up to you with a bible and tried to convert you. Are you saying that all he presented was an invite to his church (with sweet incentives) and a ticket?
He was wearing his Wal-mart uniform and when I presented my laptop to him, rather then DO HIS JOB by checking out to make sure there were Wal-mart stickers on it, he shoved this ticket into my daughters hand, NOT MINE and started in about what a wonderful party it was going to be, when I looked at the ticket, I found it was to a Baptist celebration.

I find that inappropriate. They try to manipulate children with promises of sweets etc. to sneak the religion past them.

AND as for him being without a job, he CHOOSE to embark on an action that is NOT consistent with his employers views of his job. That is his own folly. If he looses it, that is his responsibility, my mine.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I would think lots of religious zeolots are into porn, their deity forgives their trespasses..even those onto children.
of course they try to recruit children because of them being more open and gullable towards their ideas but to approach a child when the parent is right there, is outrageous! No matter what you sell, you ask the parent if it's OK first. That man was rude and out of place.
You are exactly right, per capita, there are fewer atheists in prison then Moderator cut: deleted Utah which is filled to the BRIM with Mormons, has a HUGE meth problem AND porn problem.

The Moderator cut: deleted just don't want to face it. They take no responsibility for their own actions and blame it on atheists.

As for my daughters public school, there is MORE then enough religion floating around. Its bad enough she has to stand up and say the speech in front of the flag that has god in it, that was NEVER put there by our founding fathers but was added in the 1950s. One teacher told my daughters best friend who does not believe in god that she was going to hell right in front of the whole class.

If religious people want religion in their schools then they are FREE to enroll them in a private religious school run by their church. A public school run by the state, has no business having any religion in it. Yet they PUSH it in there in their arrogance to believe they are above the law.

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Old 11-17-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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As for my daughters public school, there is MORE then enough religion floating around. Its bad enough she has to stand up and say the speech in front of the flag that has god in it, that was NEVER put there by our founding fathers but was added in the 1950s.
She doesn't have to, you know. Though depending on her age it might be the path of least resistance and least headache.

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One teacher told my daughters best friend who does not believe in god that she was going to hell right in front of the whole class.
That teacher should have been reported and fired, or at least disciplined. I wouldn't stand for shyte like that being spewed at my kids in public school.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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She doesn't have to, you know. Though depending on her age it might be the path of least resistance and least headache.



That teacher should have been reported and fired, or at least disciplined. I wouldn't stand for shyte like that being spewed at my kids in public school.
You know whats funny is that I had never discussed the pledge with her for that very reason. I didn't want to FORCE her or make her feel she should do something that might make her feel made fun of in school. She came home and asked me, thats when I looked up the information on the pledge and the changes it has gone through. I knew the god part was added later but not when and why.

When kids at school talk to her about jesus, she says "you mean Santa jesus?"

My daughters elementary school couldn't even have a Halloween celebration because the parents were christers and didn't want to celebrate a holiday like that. If they had checked their history books, they would have realized that unlike christmas and easter, halloween started out as a christian celebration called All Hallows Eve.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:02 AM
 
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You know whats funny is that I had never discussed the pledge with her for that very reason. I didn't want to FORCE her or make her feel she should do something that might make her feel made fun of in school. She came home and asked me, thats when I looked up the information on the pledge and the changes it has gone through. I knew the god part was added later but not when and why.
Of course you shouldn't force her, that's what christers do to their kids and we see how well that works out.

With my kids (now grown) I discussed the pledge with them and told them there were three logical choices: say the pledge as it is, say the pledge as it originally was before the McCarthy era, or don't say it at all.

I told them it was their choice and whatever they wanted to do, they could. My daughter chose option two and my son starting voluntarily sitting out on the pledge when he was in third grade. And this is back in the very early 90s when such a thing was barely heard about.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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You know part of me says that this was an elder who is stuck in his era. Inviting people to church is what many of them do. On the other hand, he should have asked the parent(s) if it was alright to invite the child to this event. Had he done this, it would have been no big deal and could have been settled with a "No, thank you." I'm sure he didn't mean any harm by it, but you just don't do that.

Church aside, people today are justifiably concerned when an adult talks to a child or invites them to something especially with enticements of candy and playing with other children. With all the exploitation of children that goes on, it's hard to know who to trust anymore. Too bad he didn't think that through.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:27 AM
 
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You know part of me says that this was an elder who is stuck in his era. Inviting people to church is what many of them do.
That is not a legitimate excuse, especially for doing it at the workplace.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:41 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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there were Wal-mart stickers on it, he shoved this ticket into my daughters hand, NOT MINE and started in about what a wonderful party it was going to be, when I looked at the ticket, I found it was to a Baptist celebration.
I find that inappropriate. They try to manipulate children with promises of sweets etc. to sneak the religion past them.
Something Ive noticed here. One poster got blasted for his/her lack of education/generalizations about Atheism (sp?), yet here you are making generalizations about all Christians.

I was raised Baptist, my grandfather was a preacher. But you wont catch this Christian girl saying anything to do with religion (aside from a "Happy Easter" or "Merry Christmas"...but I view those as more of a holiday, or an occasional religious debate amongst friends, some Athiest, one Wiccan, another Catholic, and still another Buddhist).

We're not all alike. Please remember that.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:43 AM
 
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We're not all alike. Please remember that.
We do. But do you realize how very few of you there are? You're not in the majority by a long shot.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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We do. But do you realize how very few of you there are? You're not in the majority by a long shot.
I know there are alot of pushy believers out there that dont quite seem to see that their being pushy simply scares people.
Ive never agreed with my religion's practice of going amongst strangers and aggressively pushing our beliefs...its part of the reason I myself have explored other religions. So I guess some good comes out of it, eh? A minority is born..even if I did eventually go back basically to what I was taught before.

The man that the OP is describing...I doubt he meant her daughter harm, or anything bad by it at all. Some of the old-school Baptists are like that. Even I've gotten cornered by a few of my dad's church members. You just kinda take it with a grain of salt, say "yes ma'am/sir", nod alot, and move on.
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