Eddie Long, Pastor of New Birth accused of being on the "down low" (Gay: pros and cons, living in)

[bdawk]

Originally Posted by DeaconJ

Your personal attack is noted. I see that you're a new member and may not realize that personal attacks are not allowed, and neither is profanity.

I did answer your question. The process of "becoming" gay is exactly like "becoming" straight. There is no difference - think about it. Now do you get it?

I'm with you. IF sexuality is a choice, I want to hear the specific process that heterosexuals go through to CHOOSE to be straight. NO ONE will be able to do that logically.

As to homosexuality being a sin? Prove it. You want to use Leviticus? The same book that says it's a sin to eat shellfish and pork?

[SouthernBoy205]

Dang, I'm sorry that I've offened some people. I'll be the bigger person and apologize. My high school always said not to argue with people about religious issues. Lord, I see why!

[ToucheGA]

Originally Posted by suprascooby22

Most preachers, preist, pastors do this. Does that mean that they are all somehow gay?

The other things you mentioned have always seemed to me to be very over the top. I dont understand how a "man of god" needs so much worldly crap. Any preacher that bilks their followers to the point of driving a Rolls Royce and having a private jet is a charlatan in my opinion.

Good point. I am willing to bet that the clergy who ride to church on a bike outnumber those who drive to work in a luxury vehicle. I don't understand why a church would pay so much for a jet and a Rolls when there are homeless starving on the streets in its own hometown.

[JayMcFly]

Originally Posted by MikeandIke27

You are a mess. Do you really think someone would choose a lifestyle that has so much negative output.. Do you think people wake up and say I wanna be gay so They be can be called a *** or gay bashed NO!!!!!!!. and unless you are GAy you will never understand. People who dont struggle homosexuality, or live in the gay world kill me trying to diagnose people and why they do what they do, like they have some experience in this lifestyle. Its funny how everytime this subject comes up people always run too the bible you never here the bible mentioined until this subject appears. The bible thumpers show up in full force.. But people never bring up the bible when we are on here talking about crimes and people killing each other, Women have babies out of wed lock etc.. Yes I am a GAy male who has had feelings for a man since I was small. Yes i can appreciate a beautiful woman and I have had sex with them only because I was forced into because someone said it would make me straight.. so until you are battleing with this struggle you have no say so to tell anyone in this lifestyle anything.. Its funny how people become preachers and bible quoters when this subject comes up...


Its these Kinda bible thumpers that cause people to live secret lives.. Its not what they are doing its how they are doing it and God is exposing them left and right. I am wonderfully made and made in his image. god didnt make no mistake with me he already knew that I would be battle with this struggle. END OF CONVERSATION!!! thats my 2 cents

God knew you were going to be gay? How did God know this? Tell us more so that we may understand how gays operate. Its only right. No one has yet to explain it. Yet I have ask several times.

[Tarheelhombre]

I have NEVER heard anyone say gay men are smarter than straight men. I have heard people say that the more educated you are, the more pro-gay a person is likely to be, but that is true, as validated by polls and surveys. Most pro-gay people are straight, so it's a statement about the effect of more education on views.

[MikeandIke27]

Originally Posted by JayMcFly

God knew you were going to be gay? How did God know this? Tell us more so that we may understand how gays operate. Its only right. No one has yet to explain it. Yet I have ask several times.

. God created me so wouldnt he already know what my life was going to be like and what my struggles were going to be. before i came out the wound... Tell me more how Straight people operate... wait you dont have to tell me your doing it right now

[floyd242]

This thread is sad.

[suprascooby22]

Originally Posted by Tarheelhombre

I have NEVER heard anyone say gay men are smarter than straight men. I have heard people say that the more educated you are, the more pro-gay a person is likely to be, but that is true, as validated by polls and surveys. Most pro-gay people are straight, so it's a statement about the effect of more education on views.

You place ALOT of value in polls and surveys. A majority of Californians that were POLLED were against allowing gay marriage and voted as such. Point is that you can site polls showing both sides of most arguements.

[JayMcFly]

Originally Posted by bdawk

I'm with you. IF sexuality is a choice, I want to hear the specific process that heterosexuals go through to CHOOSE to be straight. NO ONE will be able to do that logically.

As to homosexuality being a sin? Prove it. You want to use Leviticus? The same book that says it's a sin to eat shellfish and pork?

Fine im a regular guy so Ill answer. I like female breast, female butts and vagina. I think I started to like it around 5th or 6th grade. I am just drawn to women because they have these things. If a women didnt have a vagina I probably would not like them at all, most regular dudes may agree. The thought of kissing another man is on the level of drinking another humans vomit much less going any further. Im just not into dudes sexually. The penis is designed for penitrate? Do you agree? A Vagina is designed to be penitrated? Yes or No? Lets take the discussion deeper, what about lesbians?? They still need and value some form of sexual penitration right? Why is it that Lesbians are lesbians because they dislike men PERSONALLY? most Lesbians have a resentment for men, but gay dudes dont resent women, infact gay dudes get along really well with women. There is much confusion on the subject. Again I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH GAY DUDES, i like what they bring to the game. Just want an understanding for how the gay thing works. Saying that it works how a str8 guy does it is untrue & a cheap cop out. Its about sex at the end of the day. I like female breast, vagina, their shape, curves..all that stuff. Most regular guys do.

[Stewie2011]

Who knows? I'm a senior in high school. I would have just kept my mouth shut and took the money and gifts! College tution is not cheap!