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Old 11-02-2010, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta
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I have a hard time seeing it as a defining feature. It misses the heart of what we think of as Atlanta. It seems that it is being built in the hopes of spurring development along its path. They want to put in lightrail to service hoped for riders and a pedestrian/bike route that goes no where.

And what exactly is the "heart" of Atlanta? Atlanta is commonly referred to as a centerless city, due to its decentralization. Some people would say Five Points is the heart; others might say Peachtree in Midtown; others might even say Lenox. There is no defined center here. In that way, the Beltline fits in perfectly with the image of Atlanta having no one point where you can say, "We are in the heart of Atlanta."

As far as the ped/bike route going nowhere, it connects some of the most desirable and interesting neighborhoods in this city. This is not a project to get commuters in and out of the city; it is something that will give visitors and residents alike a new perspective on how Atlanta is layered.Take a look.
http://beltline.org/Portals/26/Images/materials/blp_map_packet_dld.pdf (broken link)
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Old 11-02-2010, 07:01 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I think the most logical idea would be to "flood control" Peachtree Creek between mid-Buford Highway and Atlanta Memorial Park (this would have flood control benefits further downstream as well).


The flood control area could then be re-made into a series of RiverWalk-like areas a la San Antonio. Easy flowing stream, narrow lakes with southern-esque gandolas, boats, canoes, etc. (reminiscent of the juke joint scene in The Color Purple).

In "Buford Valley," Peachtree Creek would be lined with Latino/Asian bars, restaurants, outdoor cafes, pubs, etc.


In "Armour Valley" and "Peachtree Valley," a unique scene would be created--saloons, bars, outdoor cafes, pubs, and restaurants based on the Country Soul genre or a newly-created genre/scene known as Southern Fusion.



Yes, this is away from the core CBD, but it is central enought to give Atlanta a nice, new feature. Remember people...think outside of the American city box. Go to or read about places like Mexico City, Sao Paulo, Bogota, etc...and you will be able to understand the concept/idea I outlined above.
This is not the first time I've heard talk of proposing a Peachtree Creek 'Riverwalk'; it's a fascinating idea. The South Fork in particular skirts some interesting areas: The Medlock-Mason Mill PATH trail, Emory campus (it forms Lake Candler on the grounds of the President's estate, Lullwater), then on to Cheshire Bridge Rd. beyond which it meets up with the North Fork which flows on to south Buckhead and the Chattahoochee.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:33 AM
 
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Build a moat roughly along 285 and blow up all the bridges that cross it to keep out the redneck hordes.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:47 AM
 
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What exactly do these flood control elements entail? Are they basically mini-reservoirs?
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Old 11-02-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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And what exactly is the "heart" of Atlanta? Atlanta is commonly referred to as a centerless city, due to its decentralization. Some people would say Five Points is the heart; others might say Peachtree in Midtown; others might even say Lenox. There is no defined center here. In that way, the Beltline fits in perfectly with the image of Atlanta having no one point where you can say, "We are in the heart of Atlanta."

As far as the ped/bike route going nowhere, it connects some of the most desirable and interesting neighborhoods in this city. This is not a project to get commuters in and out of the city; it is something that will give visitors and residents alike a new perspective on how Atlanta is layered.Take a look.
http://beltline.org/Portals/26/Images/materials/blp_map_packet_dld.pdf (broken link)
I'd say the heart of Atlanta goes from Turner Field, up Peachtree and dies off at the 85 overpass. Picks up again in Buckhead to Lenox. That swath of area (extended out a bit on both sides) covers a lot of what we think of as "Atlanta". Picture represenations of Atlanta often show these things.

The beltline will probably be popular like Silver Comet Trail for a long jog, walk, or bike ride. But it doesn't seem to intersect with useful destinations other than maybe Piedmont park. The eastern side of might have the most use and might spur development. If they can figure out a way to extend it to a 26.2 mile course from its present 22 miles, we could have a really cool Atlanta Marathon.

Development, other than industrial, stays away from railroad tracks so this project hopes to draw development rather than connecting established sites with something other than roads.
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Build a moat roughly along 285 and blow up all the bridges that cross it to keep out the redneck hordes.
Hehehe. I guess that's one way to annex Vinings.
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:12 PM
 
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Old 11-02-2010, 08:33 PM
 
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Nah, we'll be fine. We just need to assert our border rights to the northwest and put a straw in the Tennessee river.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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Nah, we'll be fine. We just need to assert our border rights to the northwest and put a straw in the Tennessee river.
We should declare war?
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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I always thought all those parking lots around turner field would make a great park and lake. Very centrally located. Just have to deal with the interstate some how.
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