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Old 11-15-2010, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It can if GSU's expansion into previously commercial property removes it from the tax rolls.


I think this is UGA's "camel nose in the tent". To sell it they assure that it is in conjunction with the Medical College. Once in place, as it grows, a day will come when UGA will want to separate and be its own school.


I don't see what point you are trying to make. A student just has to study chemistry or biology etc. get good grades, do well on the MCAT, etc.
You know what... I don't really care... These arguments just aren't that well made and I think most people can see what you are saying and what I am saying and figure things out.

What I want to know... is what is your beef with the university system of Georgia?

You have been taking shots not just at the actions of UGA, but also GSU and GT.

Are you overall anti-advanced education? Do you know see the benefits of university's to society?

Are you just anxious about the world and just don't want anything to change?

I don't mean this in a bad way.... but I am trying to figure out what is with all this negativity toward upper education...
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:36 PM
 
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If I were running Ga. Tech I'd welcome this with open arms, for several reasons. No. 1, it increases the state of Georgia's footprint as a center for engineering education. Secondly, Tech can position itself as the more specialized and graduate oriented engineering program. UGA can absorb some of those students who just want to get their basic engineering degree and jump out into the world and start working. Tech can focus on the advanced programs, and will be able to free up resources it's now devoting to undergraduate education. Thirdly, Tech can draw on the tremendous resources -- financial, academic and political -- of UGA.

I'm sure there are many other synergies. It would be a mistake to view this as a zero sum game.
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Old 11-16-2010, 05:54 PM
 
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And Mathman, did you go to Tech? From the other thread it did not sound like you went there, but now you speak as if you did. Are you ashamed to be an alum? Because I would never choose a school I did not want to go to and I would hopefully never be forced to be embarassed where I went to school. Heck, even as a Tech student I wouldn't be embarassed to go to UGA, being that it's another fine school.
Correction to a previous post. I said:
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After the way Tech played against Miami this past weekend...yes I'm embarrassed.
which is true. But Georgia Tech lost last night to Kennesaw State 80-63. Now I'm ashamed.

Tech receives vast sums of money for athletics and gets trounced by Div I newbie.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:36 PM
 
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The level of commitment required to develop a world-class engineering program is considerable and must be maintained over a period of decades. In the early years of a new program it is typical for the institution carry the primary financial burden associated with the new department. Subsequently there is an expectation that the recruited faculty will subsidize their research and salaries with external funding (e.g. NIH, NSF). Only after the department demonstrates a sustained significant level of accomplishment (publishing, grant awards) can it be considered as being competitive. It will be quite a while before UGA could pose a serious threat to Tech's engineering programs which are globally acknowledged and celebrated.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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The level of commitment required to develop a world-class engineering program is considerable and must be maintained over a period of decades. In the early years of a new program it is typical for the institution carry the primary financial burden associated with the new department. Subsequently there is an expectation that the recruited faculty will subsidize their research and salaries with external funding (e.g. NIH, NSF). Only after the department demonstrates a sustained significant level of accomplishment (publishing, grant awards) can it be considered as being competitive. It will be quite a while before UGA could pose a serious threat to Tech's engineering programs which are globally acknowledged and celebrated.
+1

Why expand the capacity of the 4th best engineering program in the country when you can start from scratch at a college known for passing out journalism and cow-tipping degrees?

This is clearly a power play by Adams, but luckily UGA's "engineering program" will remain the butt of jokes for years to come.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Georgia can't compete with GT in anything academically. Remember when UGA's business program used to be a great program? Don't look know but GT has passed and lapped UGA's business school.

In Business Week's latest rankings GT jumped to the 23rd best in the country.

AND


This is clearly a power play by Adams, but luckily UGA's "engineering program" will remain the butt of jokes for years to come.

If Tech is so vastly superior, why do you care so much about UGA? You're the only one on this thread who feels a need to tear down the school, while everyone else is mature enough to understand they are two different, yet good schools who cater to different people. Side note: if I'm ever in a conversation where the topic is making fun of engineering programs, somebody please put a bullet in my head.
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Johns Creek area
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Good heavens... Some folks like to argue to the point of childishness. UGA is a nationally recognized and acclaimed university. Clearly, Tech is, too. Each has well respected areas. Each has not so well respected areas. But, each is a valuable asset to this state and to our region and it is our best interests to see these institutions grow, attract new students, develop new technologies, contribute to our body of knowledge, and increase the economic fortunes of our world.
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